LarryG's Wagon w.b.

simond

Western Thunderer
I’m sure this discussion has happened before. I will have to go look, but I think I have some photos that I took in Didcot to establish correct handrail sizes. I’m sure it’ll look fine, though I’d guess the irons for the footboards should be somewhat smaller / thinner.

I’d guess around the inch, inch-and-a-quarter range for the handrails, and three-quarters or a little less for the footboard irons.

I’m surprised Dapol haven’t done that already, though there are lots of kits. Peco - Websters, Peco -Parkside, Connoisseur, WEP & maybe Scorpio too?

I thought Scorpio had recently set up a website but can’t find it.

Atb
Simon
 

simond

Western Thunderer
I’d guess around the inch, inch-and-a-quarter range for the handrails, and three-quarters or a little less for the footboard irons.

Wrong, Simon, no points...

Was looking thru Atkins Beard & Tourret, page 485,

“Next type of handrail consisted of 3/4” gas pipe...” referring to post 1911 vehicles.

So there we have it. Wire diameter 0.4375 mm would be correct. The footboard hangers look rather similar on the drawing, but they wouldn’t be tubes, I guess. Perhaps I should stop guessing :)

Van’s looking good.

Atb
Simon
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
“Next type of handrail consisted of 3/4” gas pipe...”
Gas pipe sizing is an internal pipe diameter measurement... so 3/4" gas pipe is about 1" OD and that is 0.58mm dia. in 7mm scale (or 0.6mm for convenience to include the several coats of paint).
 

Heather Kay

Western Thunderer
That’s looking nice. I know you think the wire you selected for the handrails was a little thin, but I’ve found in the past they appear to thicken up when the white paint is applied. It certainly seems to have had that effect on your model.
 

Overseer

Western Thunderer
Having put off commenting for days I can no longer resist the urge. The plastic sprue left in the verandah end wall has pushed me over the edge. It needs to be cut out, and would have been easier when flat on the bench. I am not going to tell anyone how to model as there are as many ways of going about things as as there are people but the comments about using the Parkside kit as a fill in until Dapol produce one strikes me as an odd thing to do. Parkside O scale (and Slaters and Peco) kits make up into accurate models with a little bit of work. Some parts can be replaced to suit the builders preferences but nearly all the kits are fundamentally accurate. It may be a different mindset but the process of building the kits is a pleasurable experience in itself. A bit of research to check if there is anything needing to be changed or upgraded to suit the chosen prototype and a little bit more time to make sure the corner joints, for example, fit together without gaps will produce an outstanding model. Probably at least as good or better than any RTR model. If built well a good kit will stand up to any comparison with a RTR version. The BR standard brake van is an example of this, to me the Dapol version looks too chunky around the end verandahs and the side planking looks a bit heavily rendered so I think there is definately still a place for the more subtly tooled Slaters kit version. If you just wanted a placeholder Toad van a Lima one could have done the job, it isn't accurate in any way but it is recognisable as a Toad. I haven't mentioned painting as you obviously have the painting side of things well under control.

Apologies for the rant.
 

PhilH

Western Thunderer
Weighted, glazed, and roof glued on. Finally, the sprue had served it purpose and could be removed....

Well thought out Larry, it makes perfect sense to leave the (offending ?) sprue in place to support the delicate curved roof rib until the roof is fixed in place permanently. Possibly some people wouldn't have thought of that.
 

Geoff

Western Thunderer
Well thought out Larry, it makes perfect sense to leave the (offending ?) sprue in place to support the delicate curved roof rib until the roof is fixed in place permanently. Possibly some people wouldn't have thought of that.

I haven't built the Parkside Toad, but if the curved roof rib is as delicate as the one on the Websters kit then I too would have left the offending spruce in place until I had attached the roof.

As for the merits of the various wagon kits I agree, but lets not forget that we owe Dapol for making '0' gauge modelling possible for the less skilled and well heeled.

Geoff
 

LarryG

Western Thunderer
With a natural desire for 'indoor' jobs to keep the old bones warm, more wagon kits are on their way after catching a bad case of Parkside-itis. With the need to correct the balance between Big four and BR designs and also build more 16T steel opens, these kits are just the tonic.

A layout I greatly admire and is a constant source of inspiration, especially when it comes to coal wagons... Thanks PhilH....

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Muddysblues

Western Thunderer
Who says Toads are ugly ? Lovely job on the model Larry :thumbs: a welcomed addition to the fleet.

Just to note, nothing here has pushed me over the edge ... yet !!! ;)

Best regards
Craig
 

LarryG

Western Thunderer
Hi Muddy', Dus tha mean thee hasn't gone 7mm yet? I trust you all had a good meet in Corwen yesterday. Sods Law that I had a clinic.

16T Minerals; a Parkside on the left and a Peco on the right. Neatly weathered bodies by PhilH of this forum....
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Image courtesy PhilH
 
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