Trumpeter 1:35 scale DRG Baureihe 86 display model.

P A D

Western Thunderer
Peter,

They're having an almighty guess, I'm afraid.

Dteph

Yes, I'm sure you are correct. They mainly publish profiles on military aircraft and AFVs. I suspect the BR86 and BR52 were only added because of their use by military modellers in war time dioramas. I can't think of an example, but there are one or two other guesses in the book.

Weird name change by the way! :))
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
I'd love to find some of that wet coal that supposedly burns better :eek:

That said, I've seen the coaling plant in operation at Grosmont on the NYMR and as they drop the coal, a water spray is activated that I assume is to to keep the dust down. It's quite a heavy damping and the coal must be wet, but it still burns. But burning better????
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
And that's all it does, keeps the dust down.


Coal dust/powder......as is any powder actually, wood, custard, flour, sugar....is highly explosive in the right conditions.
 
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Brian McKenzie

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There are probably as many theories about burning wetted coal as there are coal types. Decades ago when enjoying footplate rides, one fireman reckoned dampening the coal made it burn better. Perhaps this was a measure of increasing spontaneous combustion?
A Japanese power generating station stores imported coal in the ocean, but that might be as a strategic reserve possibly.

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simond

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indeed, grain store explosions seem to be a feature of prairie life, and closer to home too.

Tilbury Port explosion badly damages grain terminal silos Grain store roof mangled in 'massive explosion'

Probably got a lot to do with the prohibition notices for locos on GW coal stages

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(From Trip Advisor website, for info only)

I must admit, I’d never heard of a custard powder explosion, but live and learn...

Atb
Simon
 

oldravendale

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We lived until recently very close to a working water mill which continues to grind flour to this day as a tourist attraction but also commercially. I've spent many happy hours chatting with the miller and he always said that there are certain principles which have to be applied due to the potential for the dust created during grinding spontaneously combusting. Mind you, the mill has been there since the mid 18th Century so they've probably got it sorted by now.

Brian
 

Lancastrian

Western Thunderer
Combustion of coal in one of Titanic's bunkers played a part in her sinking. Apparently, the bunker was on fire when the ship departed Southampton, and on the side which struck the iceberg.

Ian
 

simond

Western Thunderer
I’d read that too. It rather begs the question of whether ships often sailed with their bunkers, if not alight, then at least smouldering. Wikipedia suggests that spontaneous combustion of damp, ideally fresh, low grade coal is certainly possible.

atb
Simon
 

JimG

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Years ago, I worked as a coal trimmer in the power house at the distillery in the town. The power house had three chain grate Babcocks boilers and was kept coaled each day from 16T mineral wagons. But there was an emergency pile of coal to the side of the power house and I remember that being a constant worry because it would regularly ignite.

Jim.
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
Yes Richard definitely a bonus. I would have accepted Spur 1 plates, but it seems Herr Beckert is quite flexible and can produce to bespoke scales.
Here are the plates after cutting from the fret and mounting on double sided adhesive tape. The number plates have been cut out ready for mounting with one turned over showing the backing paper on the rear before peeling off.20200820_140849.jpg

Here are shots from various angles with the plates in place. I've added the works plates but I'm not sure if they were still in place in the 1950s/60s. I suspect not, but I've added them anyway.

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All that remains is the waterslide transfer showing the water tank and coal bunker capacities etc., which will be applied to the lower edges to the rear tank sides at the rear.

Cheers,
Peter
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
The transfers have now been applied to the rear tank sides so that completes the build. My thanks to Michl080 and Richard Spoors for help and information on sourcing some of the parts and etched plate sets and Mickoo for pointing me in the direction of a cheaper source for DR works drawings.

Anyway, here are some parting shots of the completed model. I found an illustration of another Borsig built example which shows the works plates lower on the cylinders, so I have moved them down.

Cheers,
Peter
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