6 Wheel Milk Tanks

[Phill Dyson]

Hi , Could anybody tell me which version/versions of these tanks survived in milk traffic use into the mid seventies :?:

Cheers Phill

 

[28ten]

Phill
Im no expert on these but I have some shots of magpie at Kensington in '71 a and they appear to be Dia O60 and O57 there are some helpful pictures here http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c25350.html I might have some other pictures in my GWR wagon books. I guess you are thinking of using the Slaters kit? I think this is an O38 which was built in 1935.

 

[Phill Dyson]

Hi,
I am indeed thinking of the Slaters milk tanks , they do not list the diagrams in the catalogue , they are just listed as LMS 2000 & 3000 gallon & GWR 3000 gallon http://www.slatersplastikard.com/wagons/gOWagons.html , so would any of these types still be in BR milk traffic use in the early 70's :?:

Cheers Phill

 

[28ten]

Right then Ive been trying to get on RMWeb to see the one being built but it wont load :roll: so I have checked a few more things Dia O38 and O39 appear to be identical apart from the access steps/ladder and from a couple of pictures I have in Power of the Hymeks the O39 appeared seems to have been in use in the late 60's early 70's If you look at this picture http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p587513.html and compare it to this http://www.slatersplastikard.com/wagons/gOWagons/7076.html you will see what I mean about the steps.
Did you know POWsides do an O55 ? http://www.powsides.co.uk/www.powsides.co.uk/info.php?p=2 Im not sure what the kit is like though
I have some good pics of the tanks in GWR works condition which might be handy.
But in answer to the question, are they suitable for the early 70's? im not sure :lol: It might be worth calling Slaters as they probably have a potted bio in the kit.

 

[Phill Dyson]

But in answer to the question, are they suitable for the early 70's? im not sure :lol: It might be worth calling Slaters as they probably have a potted bio in the kit.

You & me both mate :lol: , the GWR 3000 gallon that Slaters do certainly looks like the ones I remember in the 1970's, but I will have to investigate further ................trouble is apart from the ladders, they all look the same to me :lol:

Cheers Phill

 

[28ten]

I have just looked at Ians thread, and it's an O38. I woul imagine it will need a fair bit of added weight. You asked about springing etc, in experience with 6 wheel tenders it will need a floating middle axle as well as some sideplay to run properly. IMHO a rigid 6 wheeler is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Phill Dyson]

I have just looked at Ians thread, and it's an O38. I woul imagine it will need a fair bit of added weight. You asked about springing etc, in experience with 6 wheel tenders it will need a floating middle axle as well as some sideplay to run properly. IMHO a rigid 6 wheeler is a recipe for disaster.

Yes I got some of slaters springing gubbins at Telford, I thought if I spring the centre axle :?: , although as you say a floating centre axle would probably be fine too, my only experience of building a 6 wheel chassis is my Western bogies which have a floating centre axle & are fine .
Cheers Phill

 

[Dan Randall]

Hi Phill

I can't help with your question I'm afraid, but remember asking the same thing on the previous version of RMweb some time ago! Unfortunately, I don't remember any of the answers I received...

It might be worth contacting Paul Bartlett - if anyone knows about wagons, he does! If you manage to get an answer to your original question, please share it with us all, as I'm sure there are others, like myself, that also have a soft spot for 6-wheel milk tanks.

I hope we'll be seeing an appropriate workbench thread from you soon.


Regards

Dan

 

[Jordan]

....trouble is apart from the ladders, they all look the same to me :lol:

So who else is going to know either..??

 

[lancer1027]

Hi guy's, The powside milk tank has a similar ladder , but it say's it's SR/BR so i dont know whether they used these aswell :?: Sorry it no help what so ever
Rob

 

[Phill Dyson]

Hi,
I have had a look on the Model Rail index & issues 12,119 & 120 have articles relating to milk tanks, fortunately I have all three so I will have a read over the next few days & get back to you.......in the meantime if anyone can add to this topic , please feel free
Cheers Phill

 

[28ten]

I found this http://www.semgonline.com/vandw/milk_01.html there a couple of useful pictures.
let us know how get on as all this research makes me fancy a few

 

[Phill Dyson]

I found this http://www.semgonline.com/vandw/milk_01.html there a couple of useful pictures.
let us know how get on as all this research makes me fancy a few

That's a useful link & I will keep you posted , I can do the ex-LMS one in the first pic as the Slaters one I already have is an ex-LMS 2000 gallon tank & I have some Powsides 'St Ivel ' transfers for it as well

Cheers Phill

 

[Phill Dyson]

I'm afraid the Model Rail articles didn't yield much info other than pics of:

LMR W44547 lot 1640 also St Ivel 3000g but fitted with 2000g tank on 8-6-79 at St Erth (same type & livery as the one in the Southern e-group link ) so perhaps a common type for St Ivel in the 70's :?:
W2561 diagram 042 at Swindon 19-5-79 & B3128 diagram 060 5-10-80 at Swindon.

Cheers Phill

 

[28ten]

I have been through everything i have and I havent clearly seen one. thinking about it logically a Tanker built in the late 30's would probably be scrapped before later diagrams. If you put one into a train of half a dozen newer tanks I dont think anybody would know better
Maybe have a look at the POW sides O55 tanker at Kettering? I must admit the whole question has got me intrigued and I want some myself

 

[lancer1027]

OK guy's, the info i have is as follows; all black/white pics
W44546 Lot 1640 pictured Torrington 1970 ( this has steps/ladders at one end) livery silver/grey tank.
W44520 Lot 1640 pictured St Erth 1970 (steps/ladders at one end) livery St.Ivel tank white/? not sure
W3120 pictured Lostwithiel 1970 ( steps/ladders both ends) livery silver tank
M44195(LMS) pictured Seaton Junction 1970 ( step/ladders central) livery silver tank
S4465(SR) pictured Torrington 1970 (step/ladder central) silver tank

hope this is of some help as i too want some.
Rob

 

[Phill Dyson]

Thanks for the replies guys , Rob could you tell us which books the pics appear in :?: , I will start delving into my BR(WR) book collection too
Cheers Phill

 

[28ten]

I have Diesel Hydraulics in the West country' on the desk and there is a colour pic on P10 I cant see any running numbers but from the steps they could be O39
I will try and speak to Slaters at Bristol and see what they say about them

 

[Phill Dyson]

I have Diesel Hydraulics in the West country' on the desk and there is a colour pic on P10 I cant see any running numbers but from the steps they could be O39
I will try and speak to Slaters at Bristol and see what they say about them

They could be from nearest the camera: 060,038,039,039,038 & the ones beyond that could be 023's as they don't appear to have walk ways near the filler.
BTW I have been comparing my Slaters LMS 2000g with the St Ivel one on the Southern e-group link & the main difference I have seen so far is the straps wrap round the tank on the slaters one , so that could be an easy conversion

 

[lancer1027]

Hi Phill
The pics are from BR General Parcels Rolling Stock- a pictorial survay by David Larkin
Rob