A West Midlands Works

Discussion in 'Area 51' started by Scanlon, 29 August 2014.

  1. Scanlon

    Scanlon Western Thunderer

    Readers will not be surprised to learn that with the beading soldered in place on the tanks that another discrepancy came to light with the etches. With the beading in position on the driver's side it turned out to be 1mm higher at the cab than that on the bunker!!!!! Out came the measuring stick, the main tanks including beading were identical, well almost. However the driver's side bunker was 1mm shorter by the door than on the other side. By judicious use of the gas gun the beading on the bunker has been eased up to match that on the tank, phew.:eek:

    Considerable marking out has been required for various pipes and operating rods on the boiler. None of these items are included as the kit is sold only as the LBSCR air braked version. When these locos were fitted with vacuum brake equipment a steam takeoff just behind the dome on the fireman's side was installed together with pipework and an operating rod. I used a spare GWR bottle valve for this purpose drilled through at 90° to the steam supply to represent this fitting. On the driver's side the ejector pipe has been created and installed. With these fittings completed the chimney, dome, tank fillers, safety valves and whistle have been put in place.
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    It is important to refer to photographs for the position of the whistle. Originally the whistle was on the cab roof but in SR days it was put onto the boiler. A few engines were fitted in later life with a boiler from a redundant I2 4-4-2t and had the whistle relocated just in front of the cab. 32105 along with the majority of its sisters had the whistle on the safety valve casing.

    Work on detailing the cab is frustrating but considerable research is on-going to build a decent representation. Fortunately in the Bradford Barton book "Southern Steam in Works" there is a photograph of 32101 in Brighton Works without its bunker or rear bufferbeam showing the cab quite clearly. Unfortunately it shows how woeful the etches and non-existent fittings are. I have had to extend the cab floor and put false backs onto the parts of the tanks that are in the cab. I still have fresh air in locations I'm sure should be filled with something and currently I’m frantically scouring books to find a solution.
    daifly, Rob Pulham, P A D and 3 others like this.
  2. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    To bring it within composite loading gauge I suspect.

    I'm sure you'll enjoy the 'quart into pint pots' whilst installing the vacuum gear into the cab as well as the Westinghouse pump governers etc. ;)

    My Terrier was bad enough.
  3. Scanlon

    Scanlon Western Thunderer

    At last this little engine is starting to look like the machine it is intended to be. There are some similarities with other pre-grouping 0-6-0t's especially the products from Derby. I decided the fresh air locations mentioned in the previous post would not have been on the originals and tiny pieces of etch have been soldered in position to close the gaps.
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    The air pump is supported on its own bracket on the front of the right hand tank. A piece of etch has formed the lower part of the bracket and a WD type handrail knob used to represent the union for the steam supply. Under each tank extension handrails have been fitted and the steps put in place. The latter are flimsy etches and have been "beefed-up" with the addition of scrap etch behind them. The steps under the cab are further strengthened by the addition of injectors and associated pipework.
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    The kit only provides two sandboxes for the front of the locomotive. A trawl through my whitemetal spares box has provided a pair of BR Standard sandboxes which are very similar in shape and size to the LBSCR type. These have been fitted behind the cab steps further filling the space between them, the injectors and the frames.

    The smokebox door has been detailed using lamp irons from the Finney7 range. For completeness these have also been used on the buffer beams and bunker. From the 1920's the coal rails on the bunker were plated to avoid coal loss. I intended to use phosphor bronze strip to fill the voids but ended up using spare boiler band material instead. The cab roof has been formed and is kept it in place by clips fore and aft on the centre line of the cab. Under each water tank long air tanks have been made up from brass tube and put in place with three clips as per the prototype.
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    In the absence of a decent boiler backhead I have chosen to use an NMRS Models J6 backhead. This has a very similar layout to the E2 complete with backhead clacks and a steam heat valve. With a loco crew in the cab this "foreigner" will be less noticeable.
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    The list of "to do" items is getting smaller but there are still about eight detailing items to complete. This model will never win prizes but at least the sows ear has been turned into a kind of silk purse albeit with the odd patch here and there.
  4. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    It looks like what it supposed to look like :thumbs: well done - more patience than I have. One of the batch numbered 105 to 109.

    Personally I would have replaced the dome and the Westinghouse pump. The dome supplied doesn't quite look right compared to the photo in your earlier post #358. It appears slightly tapered (but this could be the lighting) and I think it should be one of the fatter Brighton domes used on class C2X - but not the cut down version. Looking at photos of the E2 in later SR and BR days I also think the Westinghouse pump needs to be the larger version. On my (dare I say Roxey?) E4 and Terrier I replaced these with Westinghouse pumps from the Laurie Griffin range.
  5. Scanlon

    Scanlon Western Thunderer

    Hi Dave,
    Thanks for your constructive criticism and yes I will replace the Westinghouse pump. As for the dome , well no one does a suitable replacement so it will have to stay unless someone has a C2X dome spare.
  6. Overseer

    Overseer Western Thunderer

    It would be a shame to spoil the loco with a misshapen, incorrect dome. From photos I think the C2X dome is a similar shape but larger and on a larger diameter boiler so that option may not work. If you have a decent drawing or the dimensions and some more photos I could turn one for you, provided you can wait until after Christmas. It would only take an hour or so to fly cut the base, turn to shape and file the flare around the bottom.