7mm BR Diesels

Healey Mills

Western Thunderer
Having 'successfully' built one JLTRT class 40 I thought I would start a thread here showing the progress of my second one. My first JLTRT was 40118 and sits awaiting weathering:

40118 (2) No 2 end May 2016.jpg

This build is going to be 40060, aimed at approx 1983/4 during her latter years on BR. During my first build several people had suggested using split axles for pick-up but as I'm rather new to the JLTRT kits and indeed building locos in 7mm I didn't want to push my luck. However, with this second attempt and after watching some of the members here successful with this method (Steph Dale) I figured I'd give it a go.

Sadly my first attempt that requires a much shorter join failed:

Split axle 2.jpg

It failed whilst I was repeatedly inserting the gearbox and I think I may have applied too much lateral force at some point. To be honest I was glad it failed when it did rather than getting to the end of the build. Another method has seemed to be quite robust and is still ok:

Split axle 3.jpg

Despite the minor set-back with the split axle fiasco I've managed to get quite a way with the build.

As 060 was one of the headcode disc modified locos to a central headcode box the remainder of the doorway needs to be added. Nothing that a bit of plastruct and some filler couldn't cope with:

1. 40060.jpg
No. 2 end

2. 40060.jpg
No 1 end

You will notice the pipework is a little different too, the arrangement of which I have taken from photos that I had. It took a little bit of time to get this right especially those that will be draped over the foot steps (yet to be added). Additionally, something a little different too, I have added the cab partitions as fitted to the original loco that acted to help combat against drafts.

In this build I have also just gone full steam ahead and added the air cylinders above the boiler water tanks. These will be sprayed along with the under-frame and as the loco was in a rather dirty state I have not found a picture of the loco in its later years where any white was visible:

3. 40060.jpg

Thanks for looking in

Cheers
Lee
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
For your info, draft screens are a local fitting from Haymarket shed, they remained even when the engines were shedded elsewhere and there appears to be a couple of different styles, but what you have looks just right, nice attention to a detail that's often overlooked.

I've a niggle in the back of my mind that the headcode boxes were more square on the corners on this batch of modified engines and the tail lights might have been in a different location, I'd have to check my notes to be sure.

There's a good Flickr site about 40's and the notes pages have a who wealth of detailed information on bits and pieces, I'll see if I can find a link tonight.

I'm slowly regretting letting my JLTRT 40 kit go, mind it was split disc and I prefer the split code version so I console myself with the view that I really didn't need it ;)

Mick D
 

Healey Mills

Western Thunderer
For your info, draft screens are a local fitting from Haymarket shed, they remained even when the engines were shedded elsewhere and there appears to be a couple of different styles, but what you have looks just right, nice attention to a detail that's often overlooked.

I've a niggle in the back of my mind that the headcode boxes were more square on the corners on this batch of modified engines and the tail lights might have been in a different location, I'd have to check my notes to be sure.

There's a good Flickr site about 40's and the notes pages have a who wealth of detailed information on bits and pieces, I'll see if I can find a link tonight.

I'm slowly regretting letting my JLTRT 40 kit go, mind it was split disc and I prefer the split code version so I console myself with the view that I really didn't need it ;)

Mick D

Hi Mick,

Thanks for your input and comments. The headcode box corners were square throughout the BR service for 62, 63, 64 & 66, the others had them modified later in their service. Here's a pic of mine of 060 at Manchester Vic (1984):

40060 Man Vic 1984.jpeg

I wasn't aware of the tail light positions being different but having just checked 060 with a few other of my pics it seems I'm ok with that one. The handrails and lamp brackets were all over the place on 060 - 066, that I do know.

Pity about you selling your JLTRT 40... if you keep watching this thread I shall be building a split headcode one too very soon.... 40126 :)


Lee,
For short split axles using a cut through, you'll probably find the 'type 2' a much stronger proposition: Split axle pick-up in 0-gauge, Page 2
Steph

Hi Steph,

This is the type that I attempted and carried out the cutting/ Devcon routine just as you had described... I guess my cutting/ sawing wasn't as elegant as yours.

Cheers
Lee
 

Healey Mills

Western Thunderer
I couldn't resist a test fit today after spending a while fitting headcode and tail marker lights:

test fit.jpg

I'm quite pleased with the initial fit too as the joins are very good with perhaps only a slight sanding required to the roof/cab interface to get them to meet nicely. Since then all the roof access panel handles have been fitted.

Thanks for looking in

Cheers
Lee
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
Hi Steph,

This is the type that I attempted and carried out the cutting/ Devcon routine just as you had described... I guess my cutting/ sawing wasn't as elegant as yours.

Cheers
Lee
Lee,
I think the problem is that the webpage is lacking a diagram of the cut, something I keep meaning to do. It's meant to be like a jigsaw puzzle piece so should be self-locking. When I see you at Donny I can show you a bit better how it works.
Steph
 

richard carr

Western Thunderer
Lee

It looking good so far

2 questions for you, why do you need the filler on the nose and what have you used for the tail lights ?


Richard
 

adrian

Flying Squad
2 questions for you, why do you need the filler on the nose
Hopefully Lee will correct me if I'm wrong - as I understand it he's added a small strip of plasticard at the bottom of the cab to represent the remains of the doorway but the casting as supplied would curve under at this point so the filler is to flatten it off to represent to old door.
 

Healey Mills

Western Thunderer
Lee

It looking good so far

2 questions for you, why do you need the filler on the nose and what have you used for the tail lights ?


Richard

Thanks Richard.

Adrian is spot on with his reply. I understand the Scottish locos were converted from disc headcode versions which had the gangway door. When this was all plated over the bottom part of the door frame remained. It is this plus the fact that 40060 - 066 have handrails on top of the nose which distinguish the scottish 6 from the as-built 40145 - 199 (and a lack of MU equipment).

The tail lights are just red 2mm tower LEDs which I file down to 1.4mm diameter and then make them domed.

Hope that helps

Cheers
Lee
 

richard carr

Western Thunderer
Thanks for the reply Lee.

I have 40060 to build as well and now I have checked I see that the kit doesn't have the remains of the door. It does on the one for the sqaure centre headcode but not the rounded one.

Richard
 

Healey Mills

Western Thunderer
Hi Richard,

Your welcome. When JLTRT produced the kit it must have been for 40060 - 066 in green, hence the square corners to the headcode box.

If you are building 060, then also note the external additional pipework around the boiler water tank (which at present I am not sure what this is for - other then a drain of sorts). Not present on any other locos except (ex) Scottish ones.

Cheers
Lee
 

Healey Mills

Western Thunderer
Richard,

Thank you. I did wonder, and I assumed (rightly or wrongly) that they are supplementary drains for the air cylinders/ brakes.

Cheers
Lee
 

Healey Mills

Western Thunderer
Managed a bit more on 060 today which largely included finishing off the cab detailing then adding the bulkheads to the cabs themselves. With this part done means I can plod on and get the body together... which is exactly what I did. For some reason the body sides and roof just would not fit snuggly at all, it took a lot of adjustment and sanding.

Despite my initial thoughts that I wouldn't need much filling and sanding... I was wrong :( Here's a few pics of the progress so far:

40060 body and cabs joined.jpg 40060 bulkhead 2.jpg 40060 bulkhead.jpg 40060 cab consoles.jpg

It's funny the things you notice on a cruel close-up!!!

Thanks for looking in

Cheers
Lee
 

Healey Mills

Western Thunderer
A little work on the underframe detailing....

I've managed to add the pipework along the air cylinders above the boiler water tank. Some bit are slightly 'larger' than they should be but hey never mind. The general impression is there:

underframe detail 1.jpg underframe detail 2.jpg underframe detail 3.jpg underframe detail 4.jpg

The black wire (drain to track) was merely plonked on to see how it all looked, I think you get the general idea :) They will be removed for the coat of etch primer.

Thanks for looking in

Cheers
Lee
 
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