Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
At least you didn't silver solder the ladder as I mentioned when we last spoke about it... 
Steph
Steph
Building the MOK Class Q1, or From the Sublime to the Cor Blimey
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oldravendale
Western Thunderer
This appears to be - and is - small progress, so just an update.
Buffers have been built up and fitted. Will be incorporated in the next set of photos.
I had fitted the wrong sand pipe caps on the tender front. In my defence the description on the castings pictures was not helpful - neither was the description within the instructions. In fact, when looking for these parts I was searching for a pair. It was described as a single unit which caused me to look no further, but in searching out something else I realised there are two. The ones I'd fitted have now been removed and replaced with the correct ones. Again, not an enormous change, but one that will be shown in a future photo. I continue to have a single complaint about the kit, and that's the instructions but it's a minor concern except for the time it takes to establish the parts required from the descriptions.
After sorting out those two things I moved on to the footplate footsteps. Once again these are created with a jig, different for front and back. This time I remembered to black the jigs. Below are photos of the two versions of the steps and their jigs.
Above are the rear steps.
And these are the front steps.
They'll be fitted to he tender body tomorrow, as will the remaining odds and ends. I've not yet been able to identify the steam heating and vac pipes so will leave them off for the moment. The correct castings will become apparent later.
Brian
Buffers have been built up and fitted. Will be incorporated in the next set of photos.
I had fitted the wrong sand pipe caps on the tender front. In my defence the description on the castings pictures was not helpful - neither was the description within the instructions. In fact, when looking for these parts I was searching for a pair. It was described as a single unit which caused me to look no further, but in searching out something else I realised there are two. The ones I'd fitted have now been removed and replaced with the correct ones. Again, not an enormous change, but one that will be shown in a future photo. I continue to have a single complaint about the kit, and that's the instructions but it's a minor concern except for the time it takes to establish the parts required from the descriptions.
After sorting out those two things I moved on to the footplate footsteps. Once again these are created with a jig, different for front and back. This time I remembered to black the jigs. Below are photos of the two versions of the steps and their jigs.
Above are the rear steps.
And these are the front steps.
They'll be fitted to he tender body tomorrow, as will the remaining odds and ends. I've not yet been able to identify the steam heating and vac pipes so will leave them off for the moment. The correct castings will become apparent later.
Brian
P A D
Western Thunderer
Hi Brian,
Come on, stop complaining about the instructions. If the pages were blank they would still be better the Ace kit you built!
On a serious note they could do with some better proof reading and they do go AWOL in places leaving the builder to work things out themselves. At least that's what I found on the 4MT.
The jig for the ladder seems overly complex in that it has more pieces than the actual part. On the Gladiator L1 Imade a similar ladder just using a block of wood to line up the sides and added the rungs in between. Simples.
Ugly prototype but enjoying the build.
Cheers,
Peter
Come on, stop complaining about the instructions. If the pages were blank they would still be better the Ace kit you built!
On a serious note they could do with some better proof reading and they do go AWOL in places leaving the builder to work things out themselves. At least that's what I found on the 4MT.
The jig for the ladder seems overly complex in that it has more pieces than the actual part. On the Gladiator L1 Imade a similar ladder just using a block of wood to line up the sides and added the rungs in between. Simples.
Ugly prototype but enjoying the build.
Cheers,
Peter
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Brian
I'm building mine too at the moment. I have to agree that the instructions are a little frustrating in places as the parts are not numbered correctly. The only other issue has been a few tab holes that are just that bit too small to get the tab to go in and have needed a touch with a file to get them to fit. Most of these are on the body work, bending to shape was easy using a 20mm diameter piece of brass rod, I didn't find that you had to be too precise as once you have the rough shape the formers did their job and got everything exactly where it go.
I started on the loco chassis this morning and that is progressing nicely.
Richard
I'm building mine too at the moment. I have to agree that the instructions are a little frustrating in places as the parts are not numbered correctly. The only other issue has been a few tab holes that are just that bit too small to get the tab to go in and have needed a touch with a file to get them to fit. Most of these are on the body work, bending to shape was easy using a 20mm diameter piece of brass rod, I didn't find that you had to be too precise as once you have the rough shape the formers did their job and got everything exactly where it go.
I started on the loco chassis this morning and that is progressing nicely.
Richard
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Hi Peter.
The instructions are the only thing I can find to complain about! Also, the jig for the rear ladder may look over complicated, but it works.
In the eye of the beholder, Peter, in the eye of the beholder......
Richard - interesting that you are building one at the same time. I've had very little trouble with the tabs and slots, although it must be a nightmare to get them all etched perfectly. All round it's a joy - neither should I really criticise, as I proof read instructions and one rarely if ever captures every error so from now on I'll keep my big gob shut! It's just that, in every other respect, this is an absolutely superb kit. And, as Peter points out, the instructions are really not that bad once one gets one's head around them.
Brian
The instructions are the only thing I can find to complain about! Also, the jig for the rear ladder may look over complicated, but it works.
In the eye of the beholder, Peter, in the eye of the beholder......
Richard - interesting that you are building one at the same time. I've had very little trouble with the tabs and slots, although it must be a nightmare to get them all etched perfectly. All round it's a joy - neither should I really criticise, as I proof read instructions and one rarely if ever captures every error so from now on I'll keep my big gob shut! It's just that, in every other respect, this is an absolutely superb kit. And, as Peter points out, the instructions are really not that bad once one gets one's head around them.
Brian
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
For me this is a remarkably quick build. Now almost exactly only a month in and I have a complete tender superstructure. It's missing the top lamp iron and the vac and heating pipes which will be later additions.
Most of the chassis components were cut out, decusped and bent to required shapes yesterday too.
Brian
Most of the chassis components were cut out, decusped and bent to required shapes yesterday too.
Brian
Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
This is super - I wont need to read the instructions very much now, what with this and Ressaldar's pics he kindly sent over!
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Thank you Cliff - much appreciated.
Mike (Ressaldar) also sent me his pics. They have indeed been very helpful.
Brian
Mike (Ressaldar) also sent me his pics. They have indeed been very helpful.
Brian
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
What's on the head end, a rebuilt Bulleid light Pacific I hope
I hope so, Mick. Although it may have come to Waterloo all the way from Bournemouth behind the Q1 tender first.
Steph or Yorkshire Dave will doubtless tell us that the lamp position means it's come from Clapham Carriage Sidings.Thanks for your kind comment, Jonte.
Brian
richard carr
Western Thunderer
Brian
The tender looks great. I think these locos are beautifully ugly.
I have done quite a bit on the chassis this week, everything has been a joy to build but there are a couple of areas where I struggled to understand the instructions, so this might help you later.
I have now built the non working inside valve gear. The photo in the instructions shows 2 short links and 2 long links, well I looked everywhere for those castings but couldn't find them, but there are 4 double link castings. You have to use these and cut off the short end or long end to make the short and the long links. There are quite a few spares for the etched links you don't need them all.
Richard
The tender looks great. I think these locos are beautifully ugly.
I have done quite a bit on the chassis this week, everything has been a joy to build but there are a couple of areas where I struggled to understand the instructions, so this might help you later.
I have now built the non working inside valve gear. The photo in the instructions shows 2 short links and 2 long links, well I looked everywhere for those castings but couldn't find them, but there are 4 double link castings. You have to use these and cut off the short end or long end to make the short and the long links. There are quite a few spares for the etched links you don't need them all.
Richard
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
That is really helpful, Richard. Thank you. I'd certainly have been at sea for a while trying to work it out!
Brian
Brian
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
I hope so, Mick. Although it may have come to Waterloo all the way from Bournemouth behind the Q1 tender first.
Brian
I think that if you look closely, that is a red lamp in place over the left hand buffer for when the loco returns to Clapham Junction. The ECS lamp arrangement is for a lamp either end of the buffer beam and they have probably been put in place for the return journey to CJ on the front of the loco - after it has assisted with the 'lift' out of the platform.
kind regards
Mike
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
Wot, no 'lectrics.....!
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
I thought it was the lamp from when the loco and stock came in, but your suggestion is probably nearer the truth.
And if you want electrics, Dave you can go elsewhere!
Brian
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
You may (or may not!) be wondering why things have gone quiet on the Q1 front. I'm pleased to say that it has nothing to do with mojos, gained or lost.
The next but minor stage of work on the house begin yesterday, with plastering of the "long drop" over the stairs. For the next few days I'll be priming/wall papering/painting/fitting window cill etc etc so the workshop will be empty.
As a mini update, though, I spent some time in the workshop at the weekend intending to fit the brake gear to the chassis which would have finished the tender. Well, I've failed! I found this the most testing part of the build so far, and it would have been even more difficult to interpret had I not received a lot of assistance by way of Mike's photos. I can now see how the thing will go together, but in typical fashion will need four pairs of hands to build it. But it still all fits in immaculate order.
There will therefore be a short intermission.
B
The next but minor stage of work on the house begin yesterday, with plastering of the "long drop" over the stairs. For the next few days I'll be priming/wall papering/painting/fitting window cill etc etc so the workshop will be empty.
As a mini update, though, I spent some time in the workshop at the weekend intending to fit the brake gear to the chassis which would have finished the tender. Well, I've failed! I found this the most testing part of the build so far, and it would have been even more difficult to interpret had I not received a lot of assistance by way of Mike's photos. I can now see how the thing will go together, but in typical fashion will need four pairs of hands to build it. But it still all fits in immaculate order.
There will therefore be a short intermission.
B
Peter Cross
Western Thunderer
I did hear they reversed the image to make her right handed, whether there was any truth in it I do not know.
Happy wallpapering, I always tried to persuade the authorities paint was better.
Happy wallpapering, I always tried to persuade the authorities paint was better.