2mm Cookie's 2mm exploits - Painting

Steve Cook

Flying Squad
Thanks to Jerry and the Larkrail challenge I appear to be accumulating a few bits and pieces in 2mm, enough to start a workbench thread and wonder if Pandora's box has been cracked open :)

I'm not very good at doing just one thing and finishing it off before starting something else so don't be surprised to see a slightly haphazzard approach in here...

First job of the weekend was to carry on with the small building started as part of the Larkrail challenge. Bits of code 40 rail were cut to length to act as bargeboard supports around the perimeter of the roof. If I can figure a way to make rain gutters I have the option of soldering them into place, plasticard bargeboards can then be glued to the brass rail (the hope is that the web of the rail creates a small recess for the glue to hold onto). If plastic turns out to be the best option for guttering that can at least be glued to the bargeboards and brass pins inserted through into the rail for extra support.

Brass Bargeboards on.JPG

A change from soldering led to the conversion of a Farish 24, replacing the standard wheels with a set of the 2mm Association drop in wheelsets. The new wheels were given a quick scrub to clean them up, a polish with a glassfibre brush and then blackened...shown here next to one of the original wheelsets.

Wheel Comparison.JPG

The axle is anodised aluminium so I've left it silver - you can't see it with the loco on the track anyway - note to self, check whether drive gear is visible now :oops: Conversion really was a 10 minute job, I spent longer than that prepping the wheels for the swap. Halfway through and you get a good idea of the difference between N and 2mm Finescale

One wheelset in.JPG

Having converted the loco I started thinking it would be nice to be able to run it on something...oh dear, that'll be a slippery slope ahead then :D If you're going to build a layout, points are handy things to have (says the bloke with the 'point less' garden railway) so I broke out the association jigs for filing the Vee and assembling the wing rails. Its the first time I've used any jigs for pointwork construction and it does make the job significantly easier for me, especially in getting the crucial alignments right. I'm not going to pretend it sped the process up much, by the time I'd worked out how to use the jigs (its still possible to get some misalignment on the wing rails) and made the rest of the components I didn't seem to be that far ahead of where I would normally be. There was however, a lot less 'adjusting' during construction and thats where the real time saving was. Tiebars still drive me mental but after a Saturday (and a quite a lot of today) I've got two points in 2mm that pass the wagon test :)

Pointwork.JPG

Both are a B6 configuration and have a 'moving sleeper' tiebar - its worked for Jerry on Highbury and John Greenwood has also used it to good effect on Wenfordbridge Goods - I see no point (doh!) in reinventing the wheel just yet..baby steps for me. The black thing in the middle - a Code 80 N gauge point from my Grandad's old layout, the scene of many happy hours when I was a nipper :) Length wise there isn't a lot in it, but the frog area..mmmm.....

Sticking it all together on the workbench this evening..

Collection of bits.JPG

Doesn't seem like an awful lot of stuff for the time spent so far, but its been good fun, different and I can now carry on soldering bits together and finalising the layout plan I have in mind :)
Steve
 

Pugsley

Western Thunderer
That building has turned out well, and isnt that point peco crude?
The crudeness of the track and wheels was always the thing that put me off N, that and a lot of the models looked even less like the real thing than some of the OO stuff of old! The latter point has now improved immensely, and coupled with the 2FS wheels and track it's a lot more tempting than it used to be.
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
Cookie, you're a ruddy pain.

There's some really good modern image stuff out there isn't there? The drop-in wheels make all the difference (although I'm still not convinced about steamers). Bristol Parkway in 2mm? There's a thought...

Who does a HST in 2mm though?

Steph
 

Simon

Flying Squad
Thanks to Jerry and the Larkrail challenge I appear to be accumulating a few bits and pieces in 2mm, enough to start a workbench thread and wonder if Pandora's box has been cracked open :)

I'm not very good at doing just one thing and finishing it off before starting something else so don't be surprised to see a slightly haphazzard approach in here...

First job of the weekend was to carry on with the small building started as part of the Larkrail challenge. Bits of code 40 rail were cut to length to act as bargeboard supports around the perimeter of the roof. If I can figure a way to make rain gutters I have the option of soldering them into place, plasticard bargeboards can then be glued to the brass rail (the hope is that the web of the rail creates a small recess for the glue to hold onto). If plastic turns out to be the best option for guttering that can at least be glued to the bargeboards and brass pins inserted through into the rail for extra support.

View attachment 15629

A change from soldering led to the conversion of a Farish 24, replacing the standard wheels with a set of the 2mm Association drop in wheelsets. The new wheels were given a quick scrub to clean them up, a polish with a glassfibre brush and then blackened...shown here next to one of the original wheelsets.

View attachment 15631

The axle is anodised aluminium so I've left it silver - you can't see it with the loco on the track anyway - note to self, check whether drive gear is visible now :oops: Conversion really was a 10 minute job, I spent longer than that prepping the wheels for the swap. Halfway through and you get a good idea of the difference between N and 2mm Finescale

View attachment 15630

Having converted the loco I started thinking it would be nice to be able to run it on something...oh dear, that'll be a slippery slope ahead then :D If you're going to build a layout, points are handy things to have (says the bloke with the 'point less' garden railway) so I broke out the association jigs for filing the Vee and assembling the wing rails. Its the first time I've used any jigs for pointwork construction and it does make the job significantly easier for me, especially in getting the crucial alignments right. I'm not going to pretend it sped the process up much, by the time I'd worked out how to use the jigs (its still possible to get some misalignment on the wing rails) and made the rest of the components I didn't seem to be that far ahead of where I would normally be. There was however, a lot less 'adjusting' during construction and thats where the real time saving was. Tiebars still drive me mental but after a Saturday (and a quite a lot of today) I've got two points in 2mm that pass the wagon test :)

View attachment 15632

Both are a B6 configuration and have a 'moving sleeper' tiebar - its worked for Jerry on Highbury and John Greenwood has also used it to good effect on Wenfordbridge Goods - I see no point (doh!) in reinventing the wheel just yet..baby steps for me. The black thing in the middle - a Code 80 N gauge point from my Grandad's old layout, the scene of many happy hours when I was a nipper :) Length wise there isn't a lot in it, but the frog area..mmmm.....

Sticking it all together on the workbench this evening..

View attachment 15633

Doesn't seem like an awful lot of stuff for the time spent so far, but its been good fun, different and I can now carry on soldering bits together and finalising the layout plan I have in mind :)
Steve

I don't know, I can't leave you alone for five minutes and look what you've gone and done - such a loss to the 1/32 movement:))

Simon
 

Steve Cook

Flying Squad
That building has turned out well, and isnt that point peco crude?
Cheers Guv :) Pleased with it so far, looking forward to getting it dressed up now.

I think the Peco point might have been a bit harsh as a comparison, I have no idea how old it is or how representative, but along with the wheelsets helps to show the difference and why I've been tempted :D

Cookie, you're a ruddy pain.

Helping all the while :))
There's some really good modern image stuff out there isn't there? The drop-in wheels make all the difference (although I'm still not convinced about steamers). Bristol Parkway in 2mm? There's a thought...

Who does a HST in 2mm though?
There is a lot of nice stuff about, I suggest not researching too heavily ;) The drop-in wheelsets are a massive bonus, and when combined with all of the track work jigs it really is an interesting diversion. Steamers are more difficult (same for any scale) but the Association does do wheels or a wheel machining / profiling service. The latter is necessary for any of Dapol's N gauge diesels too just in case you were tempted....

No idea about an HST, I'm sure one of the 2mm lot can help :)

Steve
 

Steve Cook

Flying Squad
Why, oh why, do "N" gauge models still have those steamroller wheels? IS there really the need?
Probably due to compatability and track standards.

Does it really matter though? Certainly NOT worth getting worked up about (at least on this thread :) ) - thousands of people enjoy building and operating N gauge railways. More power to their elbow I say, if you can cope with the slight dimensional inaccuracies they make 2mm finescale modelling another step easier :)
 

Steve Cook

Flying Squad
Why not easytrak?
I have some, but for pointwork I wanted to try copperclad first - easier to make multiple adjustments if required (based on my past point assembling history). It was worth building two to understand and get used to the jigs, Easitrack ones next, er, um, what I am saying, er oh b*gger....:))
 

Rob Pulham

Western Thunderer
Doesn't seem like an awful lot of stuff for the time spent so far, but its been good fun, different and I can now carry on soldering bits together and finalising the layout plan I have in mind :)
Steve

It does to me and looks super Steve, not super enough to have me ripping up all our N gauge track but if I was starting again it would definitely be tempting.:thumbs: Thanks for sharing the comparisons
 

Steve Cook

Flying Squad
Thanks Rob, glad you're not tempted to rip anything up :)
Pleased you've found the comparisons interesting, certainly made me stop and think...
 
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