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Discussion in 'S7 Group' started by spikey faz, 23 June 2020.
Do you know what sort of capacity? I'm thinking a ton?
Sorry, I don't know. There are photos of square tubs and round tubs in use but I don't remember seeing any capacity markings. My knowledge of NSW railway matters is limited.
Do you think I should start a separate thread? NSWGR stock?
Are the data sheets as good as the drawings in the book? I'm looking at the locos and some of the older coaches.
Yes, he has put a lot of work into them over decades.
Time to go shopping then! I feel a project coming on.
One of my hobbies is collecting cigarette cards. They are wonderful tiny bits of art in miniature and the details on the reverse are a sort of Wikipedia of their day. Here's one from the 1924 set of Wills's "Railways Engines". There was also another updated set of different locos produced in 1936.
I then fell down the inevitable rabbit hole and found this - relevant, perhaps, to another thread so please forgive the brief diversion. This is from Wills's "Railway Equipment" of 1938.
As a side comment, cigarette cards are great things to collect. They are extremely colourful and for the most part inexpensive. A set of one of the really common and less interesting subjects will set you back £5, most sets are in the £20 to £50 range although it's also true that sometimes they'll go up to £100 or even more per card for the really rare ones.
Sorry for the partial diversion but there are lots of sets available of railway, car and aircraft interest.
Go for it!
So which of the current O scale GWR engines could I convert to Hercules?
Just idle speculation!
Pretty certain I have a drawing somewhere for this Sentinel based (Coles?) critter:
Ha! A few minutes with everyone's favourite search engine found me a couple of links and some good photos. The loco seems to be based on an 850 pannier, with the crane a steam-powered re-imagining of a 12t hand crane. Even the bogie looks like it's a cunning re-imagining of a Churchward loco bogie (modified for outside bearings).
But, as I'm not a GWR modeller, I don't know who does an 850 currently (was Eric Underhill, latterly ABS, hopefully to be available again from another source) or the crane.
Hello Mike. I've not the faintest idea! Doubtless there's a GWR aficionado out there somewhere who can advise on a good starting point. Out of idle interest I looked on line and quickly found gwr crane tank locomotive - Google Search There's also been a model made and reported in the other place. Hercules - A Great Western Story They may be of help.
The answer can be found in Volume 2 of Russell and the RCTS Part 5. They were based on an 850 with the main frames extended backwards. No.16 was built later than 17 & 18 and had a Belpaire boiler. The bogie was a weird one off, neither Dean nor Churchward and used 2'8" wheels. Russell has a good scan of the diagram drawing of No.16 and is proably the best you will do now; for a diagram drawing it is quite detailed. There is a good photo of Cyclops (17) in works grey and an over exposed photo of Hercules.
As for kits there is a box of bits for an 850 from Scorpio.
Ha! I was contemplating the Sentinel ash crane as a project, but I bottled it due to a lack of drawing. Now, if you were to find that drawing......
I was rather hoping I could chop a Dapol or Minerva GWR tank loco about to create the mighty Hercules, but I suspect that's a non-starter. To be fair though it's a big old crane - far bigger than anything I've so far built. Might be a crane - too- far!
Have a look at pages 173 to 175 of Sentinel Locomotives and Sentinel-Cammell Railcars just published by Industrial Railway Society.
Thanks for heads-up. I'll check it out.
In other news the rebuild of the Terrier begins. Those of a nervous disposition please look away!
Modified the sideframe overlays (which are conveniently held on with a couple of screws - thank you Dapol ).
Next up: brake gear.
Brake gear more of less finished. I was trying to work out where the handbrake went until I realised that they'd simply removed it to make room for the crane! No handbrake then, although the actuating linkage is still in place.
Then on to the cab spectacle plate.