First Train to Holme Lacy

Discussion in 'WR Action' started by SimonT, 9 April 2020.

  1. daifly

    daifly Western Thunderer

    Another Liskeard photo - this time the opposite end of the station. Enlarged and cropped from a photo in The Liskeard and Looe Branch by Gerry Beale pub Wild Swan.
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  2. SimonT

    SimonT Western Thunderer

    what a good spot, thank you. My tapping was interupted by the black and white clincher arriving. I bet the ground disk is worked by the detectors on the catches. There appears to be no point rodding so we might assume that the wooden covers are over the gubbins of a hand lever and there is jusy a signal wire coming into the the hand lever. These appear to be old 10 or 12 ft loose heel switches unlike the BR colour photo that looks to be a later B switch. Smith states that the old switches worked really well in this use but that the later switches were not so good at getting the vehicle out of the way. Presumeably this was because of the shorter planning on the old switches.

    Thanks for your help chaps. I am still thinking of changing Amalagamated Flange into a goods shed. I did this earlier today.

    Watlington meets Fairford. The trouble is that none of the stations on the Hereford, Ross and Gloucester had anything more than a tin goods lock up. The building for Amalgamated Flange is held on with six screws and sits in a tub. I've taken it off and put a very rough mock-up in place. I could rotate Amalgamated to reduce the long swing to get into the building.
    It is very tight!

    Cheers Chaps. Stay safe and happy.
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  3. daifly

    daifly Western Thunderer

    Hi Simon
    I have a signalling diagram and locking chart for Liskeard. The two catch points are operated in conjunction with the foreground 'cropped' turnout from the main although the containing turnout is hand operated. The ground signal controlling exit from the siding is operated by a lever in the box and is released when the 'cropped' turnout in the foreground is reversed and locks normal the ground signal allowing movement from the main line into the siding.
  4. SimonT

    SimonT Western Thunderer

    Just mocked it up.
    Should work a treat. Only a couple of sleepers to replace.
    Both sidings can be lifted and relaid with a better alignment onec the worrks is secure down into a new holding tray. Still have no foam underlay. If the East Germans could build a car out of cardboard it must be okay to use as underlay......
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  5. SimonT

    SimonT Western Thunderer

    just seen your comment about the signal diagram. Very useful. I suspect that I can get away with only a few wiring changes and no extra switches. I'll sit down and draw it out to check the logic.
  6. Phil O

    Phil O Western Thunderer

    Hi Simon,

    Others have beaten me to the solution, this very problem cropped up elsewhere, I came across it at Arley on the Severn Valley, the goods is/was in the form of a loop starting from a diamond in the up line and the stock and closure rails had a trap switch, as per Dave's photo above.
  7. SimonT

    SimonT Western Thunderer

    Thank you Phil.
  8. paulc

    paulc Western Thunderer

    Hi Simon , just a word of caution with your cardboard underlay . When you ballast , assuming you will , beware using the usual pva / water as the cardboard will suck it up and do all sorts of orrible things . Try using liquid floor polish , people go on about Pledge but really any of them work . I cant find Pledge in Australia so tried some that we use on vinyl flooring and it works a treat.
    Cheers Paul
  9. SimonT

    SimonT Western Thunderer

    don't worrry, it won't come to that!;);) But thank you.

  10. SimonT

    SimonT Western Thunderer

    Progress has been slowed by the need to keep Madam sweet by spending some days working on the fields to top reeds and other weeds, so little time for proper activities for a retired gentleman, who ever he might be. On the other hand there is a copious amount of byproduct from the beneficiaries of my labour. Yup, tons of well rotted horse muck.

    The laying of the catch points to the yard has been finished although I still need to take everything off the layout and put the baseboards on their sides to fit the motors and the wiring to the motors. Of course that bloke Sod has put in a contribution. The motor that powers each of the points feeding these siding catch points is on the other baseboard. I either make two junctions in the control box and then modify each loom to the baseboard or I put in a cross baseboard link running from each point motor to the associated catch point motor. The interlocking for each ground disk is already in but without the detectors to check that the catch point is in the on position. I can live without that.
    The disk has to be 6 ft in advance of the catch and I suspect that it might be a bit tight if sighted between the siding and running line, so I shall probably position it as shown. The yard point has a lever at the moment but I tempted to put in one of the lovely London Bridge weighted switch levers.
    The cardboard conundrum was solved on Saturday when having done the weekly shop in out neighbouring little town I dropped in to the local builders merchants. They dug out a couple of substitutes for the foam I originally used on The Back End, laminated floor underlay from B & Q (1 hour way plus time spent in a queue). I now possess 15m of accoustic insulating foam that has all the properties that I require and should be enough to see me out of layout building (I have to admit to having form that way). The building for Amalagamted Flange Widgets has been repositioned by about 4mm and rotated by about 4degrees and the alignment has been much improved. Contrast this view with the one in post 44.
    Test running into the yard has revealed no snags but will continue.;) Next to do some more work on the fiddle yard and then to fit the motors to the catch points. I will need to do some landscaping soon to sort out the platforms and other lumps on the model.
    Living in a wild place we get a lot of wildlife, but this was as surprise on Saturday morning in the workshop.
    He is a male Redstart and he and Mrs Red are nesting in a stone wall just outside my timber shed. He must of turned right rather than left on the way to the nest. No doubt she gave him a LOTBO.

    Stay safe and happy.