For all you Hydraulic nutters!

[marsa69]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/O-GAUGE-WARSH...=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item335ceaf9da

I'm sure someone might be tempted

 

[Phill Dyson]

Shouldn't that be all ' Sado Masochistic ' Hydraulic nutters :laugh: ...........I wonder why It's un-built when the kit hasn't been available for years :scratch: :laugh:
Phill :wave:

 

[rosspeacock]

1st time ive seen that kit, Ive never seen one built up but looking at the shape of the windows and the noses I think like you said before Phill your going to have a lot of work to get it to look anything like. think for a budget kit the model express one and a bit of work is a better option???? :scratch: :scratch: Think that also could be the reason that PRMRP dont market it in their range anymore as this kit as one of the ones they inherited from Nigel Stanley Models and prior to that I'am assuming Wagon & Carriage also made this kit too Phill knows better I'm not too sure???

 

[westernfan]

talking of things on the bay have you seen that beattie well tank thats up for grabs at a good buy it now price be a good loco for a joint GWR and sr setup

 

[Jordan]

... think for a budget kit the model express one and a bit of work is a better option???? :scratch:

Flip me... if an El Crappo is "a better option" than this then it MUST be bad..!!!! :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[lancer1027]

Shouldn't that be all ' Sado Masochistic ' Hydraulic nutters :laugh: ...........I wonder why It's un-built when the kit hasn't been available for years :scratch: :laugh:
Phill :wave:

I did'nt realise that kit even existed I'll get mi coat

 

[Phill Dyson]

[quote=""rosspeacock"":3l50856l]... think for a budget kit the model express one and a bit of work is a better option???? :scratch:

Flip me... if an El Crappo is "a better option" than this then it MUST be bad..!!!! :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote:3l50856l]
The Model Express Warship isn't ex-El-Crapo Jordan, it's the ex- Mageken (probably spelt wrong )kit, I have both versions & the main difference is the Mageken has real glass moulded into the body where as the Model Express one doesn't
Cheers Phill

 

[Andrew Thompson]

All

The origins of this kit go back to Dave Parkins original kits in the late 70's . I actually built one but long a go sold on.
I thought with a bit of work they made upto into a good representaion . The original kit had nickel silver window etches and doorsteps etc. The downside was that the whitemetal cab roof casting was to small and required a lot filling . Yes they were basic but there was nothing else at the time and cheaper than the Malcom M kit which soon went out of production until reintroduced by Model Express .

Andrew

 

[Phill Dyson]

All

The origins of this kit go back to Dave Parkins original kits in the late 70's . I actually built one but long a go sold on.
I thought with a bit of work they made upto into a good representaion . The original kit had nickel silver window etches and doorsteps etc. The downside was that the whitemetal cab roof casting was to small and required a lot filling . Yes they were basic but there was nothing else at the time and cheaper than the Malcom M kit which soon went out of production until reintroduced by Model Express .

Andrew

The face of the PWP/RJH Warship looks nothing like the real thing, without major surgery IMO, one of the problems was the whitemetal nose was simply wrong. if the front was re-designed it could have been a good kit but sadly it was withdrawn instead.

Cheers Phill

 

[Phill Dyson]

I recently had a look at the Model Express Warship - demonstartor - on their stand, and it had a lot of air-holes/bubbles/deformation in and around the cab etc. is this model ever worth a punt/how much work is involved? The DJH version is too heavy and too pricey to my mind - each to their own though

Thanks,

Regards CME.

Well they probably wouldn't satisfy some rivet counters, but I think they make up into a quite reasonable loco for not a lot of cash with a bit of filling & a few after market parts

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Phill :wave:

 

[lancer1027]

I quite agree Phill, not a bad kit for the money from what i've seen. You have made a fantastic job on yours mate. What extra bits did you have to get ?

 

[westernfan]

For roughly 80 quid you cant go wrong i fancy having a go at making their wickham trolley . Phill :wave: did you have any problems with those solid resin bogie blocks ?

 

[Phill Dyson]

I quite agree Phill, not a bad kit for the money from what i've seen. You have made a fantastic job on yours mate. What extra bits did you have to get ?

That one just has scratchbuilt extra detail (cabs, grills etc. ) Rob

 

[Phill Dyson]

For roughly 80 quid you cant go wrong i fancy having a go at making their wickham trolley . Phill :wave: did you have any problems with those solid resin bogie blocks ?

I wouldn't bother with the resin bogies, mine has PRMRP etch bogie frames

 

[Jordan]

There seems to be a 'mid-price-range' gap in the market for Warships,

That gap exists for the whole of British O scale, as far as I'm concerned...!!! :lol: :lol:

 

[Phill Dyson]

Whilst I am not a rivet counter, the demo model really was awful, in my humble opinion, and the window surrounds were very badly deformed and pitted/air-holes, as were all the grills etc. etc. etc. Whilst ?80 is very appealing (?150.00 'all in' for wheels etc..) and I agree that the brass motor-bogie subframes from PRMRPs is a great idea I know of the El Crappo philosophy, yet sanding, cutting, filing, whilst satisfying in the long run when a good end result is achieved, is, for me, now becomeing a bit of a chore. As an 'O' gauge modeller, on a tight budget, such is my bread and butter, yet I long for 'Tamiya quality' kits

Looking at your lovely model in the phots. the cab ends on your Warship look very good - even in preparation - was it as bad as the demo model to start with (I know that could be a;- 'a how long is a piece of string question')?? :scratch:

There seems to be a 'mid-price-range' gap in the market for Warships, am I right in thinking that there is only the DJH kit and the MRE resin kit? Perhaps JLTRT will develop one soon?

Thanks again and all the best.

CME.

Yes my kit was just as crap as the demo model :laugh: , but with plenty of time & some Milliput it can be turned into a reasonable model, to be fare to Model Express the demo kits are just the parts glued together & primed.....no filling.....no frills, so you can see precisely what you are buying & I applaud Model Express for doing this & he is a very nice bloke who is quite happy for you to open all the kit boxes & swap parts if there is something your not happy with
JLTRT are doing both 42 & 43 Warships which will be their usual ?460ish(?600ish complete) price or as you say there is the DJH/Tower one (if you can get one) at much more reasonable ?400ish complete.

Cheers Phill :wave: