Fred Phipps Class 22 Build

taliesin

Western Thunderer
The perils of posting on the move via a mob, i managed to combine two dvd's together, I meant Diesel Hydraulic Heyday which Simon refers to. It looks to be the same footage, only on the dvd it's in colour with a dubbed soundtrack.
Turning to the interest in them were they really ugly duckling's? did they look uglier than other contemporary designs? and regarding the reliability, they were serviced in conditions that were not really up to scratch by a workforce who were familiar with steam engines and in a lot of cases resistant to change to the "new" technology.
As a result they seem to get a raw deal, cheers Rob
 
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Pinza 7

Guest
I must admit to liking the "sad eyes" look, does that make me sad as well :D, cheers Rob

I think you've made a good job of that class 22 Rob and you deserve recognition for it. I joined this group in part, so I could see the large pictures of your model. The ones you have on your phone are good, but don't do it justice. Having researched it, old 'sad-eyes' is steadily growing on me, but I wouldn't regard either of us as being sad, just people who are able to appreciate a locomotive that could have gone on to better things had it been given the chance.

I hope that CD was of use to you. I now have twice as many photos of the full-size locos on my laptop (over 900 including the edited ones, and that doesn't include those I haven't yet scanned), so we can add all the rest when you're next at the club.

Not sure if you've seen Locomotives Illustrated No 197, but that is dedicated to the North British Type 2s, both DE and DH, and has some interesting information. I also have British Rail Fleet Survey Vol. 2 Western Region Diesel Hydraulics, and that too is useful. By the way, I have already written the next article for The Cam, and I've made sure you get a really good mention!

Tad
 

taliesin

Western Thunderer
Hi Tad, thanks and welcome but put a bit about yourself in the new members section as although this is primarily a modelling rather than engineering forum i am sure the prospect of a 7 1/4 gauge 22 will get the juices flowing.

Turning to DVD's now after what seems an age Wolverton Rail have finally delivered my copy of "Western Heroes".
Having sat down and watched it i would say if your dithering about also getting a copy of "Diesel Hydraulic Heyday" then don't worry, just buy it. Only my opinion but DHH has far more footage where 22's are concerned plus footage of the original Warships and Teddy Bears which are not featured on "Heroes" at all.

Incidentally the delay in getting hold of "Western Heroes" was down to the Owner of Globe Video Films retiring and emigrating to Portugal and although his Daughter will take on the business there is expected to be quite a delay before production flows again. So if you want anything from Globe get your orders in now ;) or face a delay.

I was going to drop 6322 off with Nidge tomorrow but he has been called into work so another day will have to do,
cheers to all, Rob
 

taliesin

Western Thunderer
Well it's been a while now but i fetched her back yesterday. Nidge has done a subtle job on the chassis and bogies, very understated and not grime covered. I have had to re-glue a couple of the windows but thats just about it.

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Sorry about the light but i hope you get the idea. I have also had a further go at the roof myself as it struck me that it was still too light and shiny, basically a mix of dark grey and matt black applied with a sponge.

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During it's life 6322 had received damage to it's A end which resulted in it looking different to the B end. i had forgotten to make and fit the small vertical hand rails above the buffers on the B end, now sorted,

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And here is the A end to show whats different,

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In time i will spot other things that need to be fixed or forgotten but she is now basically complete (and on charge)
back to those tankers then, cheers to all, Rob
 

Simon

Flying Squad
Hi Rob

That looks utterly splendid - you must be really pleased with it. I certainly would be - Wow!

Looking forward to seeing it "in the flesh" this summer:)

Simon
 

taliesin

Western Thunderer
I am rather chuffed with it Simon, and i will bring it to Larkrail, along with some milk tankers (hopefully):eek:,
cheers Rob
 

D6356

Western Thunderer
Hi , I must add my congratulations on a lovely loco . Any chance of a pic with body off showing how you squeezed in the RC gubbins - hopefully this well help my efforts.
Purely as aside my Dapol 63xx are all work of art.. Just becasue I can a spare body has been obtained and now has sealed front doors, headlamp and the headcode boxes blanked out -with a central marker light. Due to the "refurbishment!" inflicted in my parallel universe some doors sealed on the side along with a grill this allows a Regional Railways livery to be aflicted on the body. Now for a number 22 0xx or if fitted with ETS would it be a 22 4xx - it was lucky that trade so good in North Cornwall and Devon that the lines did not close and dmus could not cope with loadings so locos were retained with the independence given to Laira a number of the 63xx locos kept on going to just a few years ago!! - my excuse m`lord...
Robert
 

Simon

Flying Squad
Hi , I must add my congratulations on a lovely loco . Any chance of a pic with body off showing how you squeezed in the RC gubbins - hopefully this well help my efforts.
Purely as aside my Dapol 63xx are all work of art.. Just becasue I can a spare body has been obtained and now has sealed front doors, headlamp and the headcode boxes blanked out -with a central marker light. Due to the "refurbishment!" inflicted in my parallel universe some doors sealed on the side along with a grill this allows a Regional Railways livery to be aflicted on the body. Now for a number 22 0xx or if fitted with ETS would it be a 22 4xx - it was lucky that trade so good in North Cornwall and Devon that the lines did not close and dmus could not cope with loadings so locos were retained with the independence given to Laira a number of the 63xx locos kept on going to just a few years ago!! - my excuse m`lord...
Robert


What an excellent parallel Universe you inhabit - is there room for one more inside it?

Simon

Currently making up more track panels for my contribution to an alternative West Country railway history:p
 

taliesin

Western Thunderer
Hi Robert, good to see your still here. When i embarked on this i freely admitted that the world of sound cards, speed controllers etc were totally alien to me which is why i purchased a complete system from Peter Spoerer, he supplies a complete system plugged together assembled on a board you see so you can transplant the bits one by one with hopefully no unfortunate or expensive cock-ups.

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This first picture shows the speed controller and sound card mounted inside the roof using double sided tape, the type that uses velcro which is glued into the roof (obtainable from R/C shops). In the middle shows the speaker mounting, all rather black with the receiver attached to the bottom of it again by double sided tape. On the right is the battery pack.

This next picture was taken to show more of the "other end" for clarity.

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The battery pack is again mounted inside the roof using the same D/S tape.
It's actually all very belt and braces. Ideally i suppose i should shorten the wires but i just left them at the lengths Peter supplied. Really there is more than enough room to cram it in where you want so don't be too worried about it as it all goes in very easily. If you go back through this thread you should find some more detailed stuff about mounting the speaker etc.
If i was going to do it all over again it might be that the speaker would be floor mounted and a smoke unit could blow through the exhaust instead, another possibility to consider.
Recently i have taken delivery of a D800 kit from Fred which at this stage remains untouched, bl**dy milk tankers to finish first you see. I have ordered a Mac 5 and sound card from Brian Jones so will have to make my own wiring loom this time. As this is even bigger i am going to look into the possibility of having smoke unit(s) within, also i see Peter is now selling a small handheld 2.4G Transmitter, more possibilities. cheers Rob
 

taliesin

Western Thunderer
Went to a Garden Meeting today and took it along for the first real run in a complete state, she went very well and for once the volume seemed to be about right for the surroundings, only managed a couple of pictures though,

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The class 31 was scratch build in the 60's by a recently deceased G1MRA member which shows it wasn't all steam engines back then. I don't know if there has been any upgrading over the years but it really run well.
All in all with the weather being kind it was a great day :), cheers Rob
 

Mr Tiger Viking

Western Thunderer
Went to a Garden Meeting today and took it along for the first real run in a complete state, she went very well and for once the volume seemed to be about right for the surroundings, only managed a couple of pictures though,

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The class 31 was scratch build in the 60's by a recently deceased G1MRA member which shows it wasn't all steam engines back then. I don't know if there has been any upgrading over the years but it really run well.
All in all with the weather being kind it was a great day :), cheers Rob

Hi Rob
Well done my M.A.N for finishing your first Fred Phipps kits, and a mighty sight D6322 makes, I can even make out that old BR lion and wheel emblem under the faded BR blue. The good news Rob, is by comparision Fred's Warship kits is far easier and quicker to build than his NBL type 2!
I look foward to seeing D6322 in the future, are you attending Simon's Larkhill show again?
Cheers
Mr TV
 

taliesin

Western Thunderer
Hi Steve, good to hear from you. Yes I intend to be at Larkrail with D6322, several steamers and a rolling road, cheers Rob
 
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