Mr Grumpy

[Mr Grumpy]

Hi Dave,
For many reasons, I'm even worse with glue than I am with solder
At least I tend to get a second (or third) chance with solder
I just noticed a couple of glued balance weights have fallen off my pannier.....
However, I'm sure I will be gluing plenty of parts in to the interior

 

[Mr Grumpy]

The chassis is essentially complete, although I will be adding the coach footsteps to the chassis as the build progresses. I like to give the model a really thorough clean and dry and get the primer on as soon as I can. So, the underside of the sole bars will get a wipe with some celly thinners prior to fitting the steps.

The couplings are from CPL. I bought and made up the MMP ones, but should have enlarged the slot in the coupling hook a lot more prior to fitting. Once fitted, I couldn't get a file or broach in to enlarge the slot

On to the body......

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Following a helpful chat with Dave regarding hand rail and step positioning, I have got one end soldered in place. The corners have been subtly rounded as per Dave's instruction and the real thing. It really does make a difference!

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Time has been a bit limited, and due to my inability to solder this end on first time before being happy hasn't helped. The minuscule part of the bracket used to hold the coupling during 'slipping' the coach is residing somewhere in the work shop so I made another from scrap etch. I also need to re-locate a step from the other end of the buffer beam to below the right hand step on the end of the coach.
I'm going to move on to the foot boards next as they look relatively straight forward before attempting the roof

 

[Mr Grumpy]

I must admit to a little over indulgence with the photos, but I'm rather pleased with the chassis and bogies. The footboards are on and will probably need a little tweaking. The masking tape will come off the wheels once the weathering is complete.

 

[Rob Pulham]

Hi Richard,

Over indulgence is encouraged with items like this. Something to be proud of

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Thanks Rob, that's very kind of you to say

 

[Mr Grumpy]

I tried the roof for its first fit. I still need to add the rivet strip and guttering and solder up, but it's looking promising

 

[Mr Grumpy]

The rivet strips, which are very delicate, are next, to be followed by the guttering. I used the same approach I used on the rivet strip for my DJH 47. I tinned the back and applied a tiny run along the bottom of the roof and sweated them together. I'll add a photo of the guttering once that is on

 

[djparkins]

The rivet strips, which are very delicate, are next,

Evo-Stik - after guttering is on!

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Evo-Stik - after guttering is on!

I promise I'll buy some for positioning the end partitions prior to soldering
I'm considering glueing the coach handles etc to facilitate easier painting

 

[farnetti]

Evo-Stik - after guttering is on!

I think I glued mine, as you suggest, probably with Loctite 480. I have recently bought a tube of Evo-Stik to experiment with but have found that, even when applying small amounts with the end of a cocktail stick, it can leave a visible presence which is difficult to remove. Any advice on this helpful to me (and maybe Mr. G)

 

[farnetti]

I promise I'll buy some for positioning the end partitions prior to soldering
I'm considering glueing the coach handles etc to facilitate easier painting

Hello Mr G, I had considered that as well but thought the handles would be vulnerable with handling. Soldering the handles to short lengths of wire square to both the handles and the body seemed unlikely. So I passed and soldered lengths of wire right across the body, then soldered the handles with a spacing piece. Finally cut off the the piece of wire in between between the two sides. Appreciate this might be difficult for yours as doors may not be handed.

Ken

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Yes, unfortunately the holes don't line up
However, I shall make a jig to solder the wires to the handles and grab handles and then possibly glue into place once painted. I may even attempt to solder them from the back once the front of the coach is painted.

 

[djparkins]

I think I glued mine, as you suggest, probably with Loctite 480. I have recently bought a tube of Evo-Stik to experiment with but have found that, even when applying small amounts with the end of a cocktail stick, it can leave a visible presence which is difficult to remove. Any advice on this helpful to me (and maybe Mr. G)

You slice through the excess with a scalpel blade against the part and peel off the excess AFTER it is dry. Ken, Then you celebrate by ordering yourself the new John Mclaughlin album - Live at Ronnie Scott's! I think it'll be a good 'un.

 

[Mr Grumpy]

I fitted the gutters then went on to fit the guard's periscopes and the roof vents. I really like the vents, the main body being cast and the top cover made from forming a strip of nickel silver. They really do look the business

The roof isn't fully fitted yet as the inner ends of the coach which hold the roof in place will be next to go on, then the fitting out of the coach handles etc.
I also moved the guard's spyhole inboard a few mm.

 

[Mr Grumpy]

I'm going to be painting my coach crimson, as I'm modelling circa 1958-60.
Please can someone with more knowledge on the subject of running numbers for a Brake 2nd running on the Western Region help me with the running numbers and colour of the lettering?
Thanks in advance, Richard

 

[Bob Reid]

Assuming my eyesight isn't deceiving me it's one of the 6-compartment Brake Second's on a short underframe (Diag 371) ... If that's right enough, you are kind of restricted to one of only 12 allocated to the Western Region (the rest were on long underframes) from Lot 30045 i.e. W43100 - W43111 - Lettering was "Golden Yellow" - well really it was straw coloured - Do you not fancy it in BR Maroon so late in the day c/w lining! Nice shot of a long underframe version here;
c.1959 - Honeybourne Junction, Worcestershire.

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Just a thought given the time period modelled - would the carriage be carmine rather than crimson?

Then again rule #1 applies and the carriage could have just been recently outshopped.

I think (or at least I've seen it somewhere) it has been alluded to on WT about carriages used in outlying areas/on branch lines taking longer to get into the workshops for overhauls and repaints as they did not receive the same wear, tear, abuse and reach the high mileage as carriages on main and commuter lines.

Either way, it's a very good model with some exquisite detail and will look good when finished - excellent work . Sometimes I just wish I had the patience to assemble a kit of this quality .

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

Just seen Bob-65B's post. I could begetting confused with the colour names.....

Are carmine and crimson deemed to be the same colour? Or is crimson closer to maroon?