GWR 10mm Cattle Van

Discussion in 'G1/32' started by Dave Bowden, 3 October 2019.

  1. Dave Bowden

    Dave Bowden Western Thunderer

    This is to give viewers an idea of what the Macaw B and the Mink Van I've just listed in the small ads looked like when I'd stripped them down back to their wooden bodies.

    The two photos show what I've removed from the model, the doors have been sprayed in undercoat.

    Over time this will be rebuilt with correct buffers and other parts as required. I shall add photos as this progresses.
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    I did think about adding this to my collection but the 10mm bit was putting me off.
    NOW you can buy from Wallsall Models a 1/32 kit. So I shall be buying one of those at the AGM if Roger can get the etches back in time for the AGM.

    Last edited: 3 October 2019
  2. Dave Bowden

    Dave Bowden Western Thunderer

    Current progress on the Cattle Wagon. If you look at the original photo you will see the differences. What I found was that the edging was missing from either side of the doors and when I offered this to view it I found the steel guard rail was in the wrong place it should be 6" up from the edging.

    So that had to be removed, the doors should have had 2mm strips of wood down the inside edges to make them stand proud of the door struts.
    This has made it easier to glue them back in using 'Deluxe Materials' Aliphatic Resin wood glue. In the past I've always used a PVA and water mix but after I've completed the Cattle Wagon I've then got 3 Pythons & 2 Siphon C's of my own to build, these are Ken West kits in 1/32 scale.

    What was not on this model when I received it was any strapping so the first ones are down either side of the door. Still to be fitted will be T & L Plaststrut styrene angle. I shall complete the other side then start on the ends, so photo or photos to follow.

    This kit is supposed to be an W8 Mex B, all the pictures I've looked at in researching this wagon have louvers in the ends but for some reason the kits doesn't have them, also there are what looks like two portholes in the drop down doors. These also don't appear in any of my GWR books, although there are two in the top two doors of an W12.

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    Last edited: 14 October 2019
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  3. Dave Bowden

    Dave Bowden Western Thunderer

    Hi all here's an update on the Cattle Wagon. A bit of light relief from the Python P14.
    I ran out of the plastic L angle and I ordered some from Amazon not realising it was going to come from America. This took 2-3 weeks. This was Plastruct L 2.4mm and was cheaper from the US than anywhere here in the UK.

    The photo under the first photo is from the MRN magaxine July 1929. This was from a series of article by 'Sparks'. According to the running number it is a Mex B diag. W8 I've also added a photo from Russell's GWR Wagons App. P124 which is also a W8 but has differences from the article photo.

    Again this model has anomalies, the door casting is nothing like I can find in any of the GW Cattle Wagons. The strap down the middle is the same on a W5 but the two round items do not appear on any reference material I have. Maybe someone can come up with suggestions.

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    Cattle Wagon W8.jpg
    In this picture you can see that the ends have slots in them, but there not in the article picture. The kit model also doesn't have them.

    To make it easer for me to complete with out a lot of scratch building I'm going to finish this as an W10 not a W8.

    The W10 didn't have the slots in the ends and was built with Morton brakes not DCIII ones. I have W/M casting for V hangers but not the DC brake lever ones on the ends. Also the bottom slot on the right was filled in so that no muck could wash out onto the brake lever. But that is more work so I'm leaving it as it is. If this was going to be for myself I might consider making the W8 but this will be for sale when finished.

    Last edited: 1 December 2019
  4. Dave Bowden

    Dave Bowden Western Thunderer

    A bit more progress on the Cattle Wagon, the guard rails are now fitted and two coats of primer on the outside and one coat so far on the inside. Remember it's a wooden kit.

    Cattle Wagon_1.jpg Cattle Wagon_2.jpg Dave
  5. Dave Bowden

    Dave Bowden Western Thunderer

    In the PO Wagons thread & My Locos I said I was going to continue with the Python P14 build, but decided to complete the Cattle Wagon first.
    I have been doing bits to it when I've unable to get on with other things but now I'm focused on finishing this build.

    It was going to be a W8 diagram but that has DCIII brakes and I haven't got any parts to make a set up, but I do have some leftovers from the SR opens.

    Slater's PO 9' Etched sheet, great I thought I can use these, problem is a W8/W10 wheel bases are 11-6". So I set to and extended each of the brake push rods by 10mm each side approx. The brake levers also needed lengthening, so these were extended as well.

    The W8 & W10 are both Vac fitted and I had a suitable W/M casting so I then set about fabricating pipework so as to join up each Vac pipe at each end.
    Using one of Ken martin's Vac pipe hoses I was able to create a suitable connection from the Cylinder to the through pipework.

    I left off painting the model so the detail is clearer. The previous photos show some damage to the sole bars in line with the doors, so new pieces of wood were added and pads for the bump door stops.
    Nothing is permanently glued/soldered up yet. Some items I shall remove to paint where glue is going to be used.