Trade Heljan Class 50 in 7mm

Temeraire

Western Thunderer
Anyone heard any news about the Little Loco Company Class 50?

Tim

Release put back due to problems and delays to the Rustons which are ahead in the queue I believe. After the Rustons
come the class 22s and then the 50s. Heljan getting theirs out first won't help their sales I suspect if indeed Heljan do get
theirs out first!
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
I must admit, that does look good. I'm not convinced they've got the bogies quite right at the moment, but that may be down to lighting and camera angles.

I'll watch with interest to see whether any more photos come to light...

Steph
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Looks very nice, but appears to be a refurbished body shell so not original Hoover ventilation and classic sound. I thought they only came in large logo onward, I.E. no BE blue, not 100% sure though.
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
Mick,
They've carried variants of BR blue with yellow ends in preservation and I recall the first couple of refurbished locos were released to traffic in that condition.

Steph
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Cheers, wasn't 100% sure when the refurbished units came on line with respect to liveries. It was all such a long time ago. The antenna on the headcode box would have to go though.

Shouldn't be too hard to back date with the roof vents over the dynamic brake grid and I think the refurbs had an extra vent on the bodyside as well, or it was removed in the refurb.
 

Jim smith-wright

Western Thunderer
As I mentioned on the Heljan page (where the same images appeared a few days ago) I’m far from convinced by the top of the nose and the shape of the windscreens.
 
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mickoo

Western Thunderer
Good point about the windscreen, dimly recall they were angled a little along the upper and lower edges.
 

SimonT

Western Thunderer
I'm glad it's not me thinking the cab looks not quite right. The join of the headcode box to the cab looks odd.
 

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
I'm glad it's not me thinking the cab looks not quite right. The join of the headcode box to the cab looks odd.

I'd agree. The curves on the prototype are much subtler around this area and bottom of the window/nose joint appears too flat. Again the prototype has a pronounced curve when viewed head on.
 

Jim smith-wright

Western Thunderer
Is the same problem with the Hornby one. It makes you wonder if there are works drawings that are wrong somehow. Lima famously did an exact copy of the roof as per the works drawing but it wasn’t what EE built.
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
Jim,

Standard problem with all works drawings - they're 'intent' rather than 'custom and practise'...

It's not helped either that General Arrangement drawings for diesels rarely show the external details of a loco so they need building up from framing drawings and panel outlines. Even then it's tricky to replicate the effect of the 2lb lump hammer when the parts don't quite fit, or the bit that old Fred removed from the panel stamping to get it all to work together.

I'm minded to draw comparison to the EMD F-units. All built to a common set of drawings and parts, yet it's possible to discern repeatable differences between those built at La Grange or at London.

Steph
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
I'm still not sure that the front of the loco is that bad - the problem is that the camera angle isn't one we'd normally look at the prototype. With the camera lower we might see a view we recognise. With the Fifty Fund involved, one would assume they didn't lack prototype information.

Steph
 

PMP

Western Thunderer
There’s a couple more images from the press release Heljan sent me here
Heljan’s O Gauge Class 50

I think (STC), that Heljan are one of the RTR companies that add all the detail components to first Engineering Prototype. You may find there’s some inconsistencies in the detail/variant as ‘all’ the bits have been test fitted for engineering checks.

Anyone interested in the 4mm BR 07, there’s a few pics in the previous posting.
Wordless Wednesday Heljan 07’s (2902 2911)
 
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