How much! (By page 1 mega cheap) Heljan Dogfish V The Cambrian C12 Dogfish Build

Discussion in 'Area 51' started by AdeMoore, 25 June 2020.

  1. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    We did say they weren't quick & easy kits to build ;). At minimum wage it would have cost you over £60 plus materials to date :)). Makes RTR seem cheap by comparison!
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  2. AdeMoore

    AdeMoore Western Thunderer

    Thanks Chris you did indeed, I’ll show what it is at the end I have a feeling it’ll be double that, so the Kernow offering is mega cheap! Be interesting to see what I knock it down to on the second one.
    I wonder how long you Adam and all the other experienced modellers here would take? Probably where I am now or less?
    I’d edit the title of the thread but can’t see how! to Mega cheap compared to a C12!
    Until next time.
  3. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    It'll be quicker. If you want to take the long view, it was probably 20 years before I got a model I was happy with out of the first one! Probably best not to cost that, but at least the wheels were free. ;) You can edit the title using the 'Thread Tools' button top left.

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  4. AdeMoore

    AdeMoore Western Thunderer

    20 years wow! Adam just 18 to go then. I think I’ll dig deep well not as it happens from evidence above and get some Heljan ones! But my time doing my hobby is FOC I love doing it, I started out wondering what the build time would be and then how time and materials would fair to the Kernow Heljan price. I did think I’d be far closer than is going to be the case.
    Cheers for the replies.
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  5. AdeMoore

    AdeMoore Western Thunderer

    Brakes glued on, need better location and fettling out on next one.
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    Brake wheel thinned down not sure it was worth it.
    Wire for the wheels a bit on the thin side.

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    Went with the brake wheel off the fret on the other side for comparison.

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    The angle iron struts needed much thinning down.
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    The vac tank was not central, the moulding is off on the location peg. I thought leaving it wouldn’t notice but it does.
    I’m going with it now though need to get it done.
    The Tamiya poly cement is quite strong on this plastic and melts a little more than I’d like as can be seen.
    Painting next before anymore gets glued on.
    Thanks for looking in.
    Until next time
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  6. AdeMoore

    AdeMoore Western Thunderer

    More not in the van at lunch but sunny Cornwall this evening.
    Humbrol leather? All over.
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    Then stage 2 add just bog standard PVA where the rust is to blister back through.

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    Last up can you tell what it is yet! Probably not a catch phrase you should repeat these days! But hey...


    Thanks for looking in.
    Until next time.
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  7. AdeMoore

    AdeMoore Western Thunderer

    On went the matt Black! But this new tin is far from matt black, should send it back really can’t believe the humbrol base is affecting it.
    Unfortunately I’d left the PVA on 48 hrs until putting the black on which I only left 4 or 5 hours before attacking it with the shortened bristled tooth brush. Not as recommended and I did on the mineral wagon documented here. The peeling effect was not achieved unfortunately.

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    Add some weathering powders see if I can rescue it.
    Thanks for looking in.
  8. AdeMoore

    AdeMoore Western Thunderer

    Ummm it’s not going well!
    Probably time to give up and get ack to the layout!
    Just lost any artistry with the brush weathering or anything.


    I went for the fibreglass brush to flatten the none matt matt black it is the old 33 colour making shiny somehow as under the chute I had no 33 colour on and it went matt. So I do need a new tin or go to mig or one of the others I e been reading about. The 2nd panel I dislike with the vertical scratches but that was where I had to get a paint brush hair off!


    The inside I’m not too displeased with as I plan a removable load that will cover it when I decide it’s actually not that good.


    Next I tried some stone dust effect, which I tried with powdered colour pastels I’d read about then a waft of matt varnish to hold. Perhaps it needed another waft but it didn’t fix. Couldn’t get enough to stick for the effect I was after anyway!


    Lastly I was after an effect like @NHY581 Rob achieves here Sheep blokes weathering. see the 16T mineral there. I’ve read his descriptions before and even spoke to Rob personally but try as I might I can’t get the powder A to stick and B on in such small concentrated amounts with any tiny brush I try. I’m using humbrol powders same as him they maybe are a bit old. Dunno.
    I managed this before.

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    So as you can see it’s not going well compared to that.
    I may just finish putting the rest of the bits on couplings hand wheels handrail err. That I left off for painting and see if inspiration takes me.
    Cheers all
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