7mm Jan's 7mm Workbench

Discussion in 'Area 51' started by Lyndhurstman, 1 May 2017.

  1. Lyndhurstman

    Lyndhurstman Western Thunderer

    Thanks Rob,

    I agree totally about the timing of these things. I make a rod (non-brake!) for my own back by feeling I must get something done in the little spaces I snatch between post-travail zombification and lights out. Time squeezes hard, for me.


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  2. Lyndhurstman

    Lyndhurstman Western Thunderer

    Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating In Space
    Back to where it all began. Only this time, we have something Square & Stable.

    Huzzah! Thanks for all your encouragement. Time to top up that empty glass :thumbs:

    Four wheels on my wagon, and I'm just rolling along...
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  3. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Western Thunderer

    Well done Jan, there's nothing like the feeling that comes with overcoming adversity and getting a result.
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  4. Lyndhurstman

    Lyndhurstman Western Thunderer

    Brake Out
    A quick twenty minutes laminating the arresting gear.
    Lovely detail in the etches, and a very pleasing heft to the assembled assembly. It's not fixed yet; I want to add a bit of depth to the clutch boss ("OK, Jenkins; but don't spend all day on it").

    I'm not sure why the left hand shoe is awry to
    the wheel, but I can't bear to try and fix it. Everything is seemingly sound, now. It will just have to trundle around with a label marking it as 'For Attention'.

  5. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    Dare I say worth all the pain, Jan?


    Best wishes,


    (Sent from distant shores :()
  6. Lyndhurstman

    Lyndhurstman Western Thunderer

    Dare away, Chum :)

    It is a pain, and I am disappointed with myself for even raising it in the Enlightened Environment.
    I guess it's just one of those instances when #firstworldproblems and #daytodaystuff collide. I enter the Tiny Train Room in a bid to shed the grubby dermis of the day, but there's obviously a need for a stronger degausser in the doorway :). I haven't gone full TOOTP (Toys Out Of The Pram) yet. YET!

    Anyway, thank you for your kindness and support. It's folk like you - and the greater gestalt that is WT - who make a difference to My Whirled. May your sojourn in Distant Shores be suitably suitable.


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  7. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    I'm deeply chuffed, Jan. Bless you.

    I'm of the firm opinion that these non-essential Tiny Trains of ours are worth their weight in gold when it comes to dealing with life's many trials and tribulations. I sincerely hope we never lose our faith in them. :)

    Looking forward to getting back to the signal cabin struggle, having made my mind up (at last) about how to next proceed, of which, more shortly.


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  8. Lyndhurstman

    Lyndhurstman Western Thunderer

    The Resurrection Shuffle.

    I’ve had enough of the J15. I can’t get the numbers painted white on the numberplate, so its gone back in the box until I hope Steve at Railtec can find a moment (and I can find a wallet with enough dibble in it) to do me a bespoke 3D one.

    So... it’s been a while... I still have iron issues - on the one hand, trying to get tiny bits of brass to attach to larger lumps of brass (even with 80 Watts of Point and Shoot), and my own digital propensity towards Neil Young’s electric alter ego (that demands more fibreglass than the hull of a Westerly Wayfarer). But over the past couple of hours (myriad little moments, lumped and moulded for dispensary convenience into the larger unit) I’ve managed to add the brake gear.
    It ain’t pretty (especially the subpar soldering that lurks in places Angels Would Shy From Stepping), but it serves.


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  9. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Western Thunderer


    I think that you are being a bit hard on yourself. It looks fine from where I am sat and cameras can be very cruel.:thumbs:
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  10. AJC

    AJC Western Thunderer

    Jan - the soldering looks fine, and will never be seen under paint. I've had reasonable success with white-letter number plates and would be happy to have a go if you want?

  11. Lyndhurstman

    Lyndhurstman Western Thunderer

    Hi @Rob Pulham
    Thanks. But you haven't seen the gore fest that is the fixings for the brake hangers and loops :) (THE HORROR! THE HORROR! :eek:)

    Hi Adam @AJC
    Thanks for the reassurances. But I refer my learned friend to my answer above :)
    Thanks for the offer on the numbering; I'll appreciate it greatly, and will let you know. I've bought a 00000 sable brush, and had an intersting take on a solution from Phil Cowling on FB;

    I'll let you know how this goes... :)

    Thanks again, Chaps. I'm very grateful for your support.


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  12. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    Far too much character and detail to notice any wayward metal glue, Jan.

    It looks like it weighs as much as the prototype too.

    I hope you get back to the J15 build soon enough as I was enjoying that.

    Keep us posted.



    PS ......as I was once the unfortunate part-owner of a Westerly Cirrus, I was surprised to learn that they’d had a hand in the venerable Wayfarer. That said, the Centaur was a landmark in the small cruising class of yore, with a fair turn of speed in the right conditions. And, as you’re probably aware, Westerly yachts was the setting for the boat-building business that was at the heart of the ‘Howard’s Way’ TV series in the seventies. Jonte.
  13. Lyndhurstman

    Lyndhurstman Western Thunderer

    Hello @jonte
    Thank you for your kind words. Do you have a Specsavers close by?

    Ah... the Wayfarer. It sits now - nay, more hunkers down - in my parents garage. Atop the escarpment, it’s almost as far from it’s natural element (vertically, anyway) as it’s possible to be. It hasn’t moved in almost 20 years. We can’t get anyone to buy it, sadly. And even the ones who’ve said they’ll take it away for charity have sailed off without it.

    Before I was bitten by Stratford, I was crew. Part of the familial fairweather flotsam that were in thrall to tide and wind directions, and used to getting nowhere by going about. Mum - of course - was skipper. Dad was leading hand. Distant, simpler, times.

    I never knew the Howard’s Way connection. I remember the painful acting, more than the location.

    I’ll try to get back to the J15. I need to finish it, if only to say I’ve finished it!


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  14. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    Another witty and eloquent response, my friend. Frankly, I wouldn’t expect anything less.

    I once foolishly thought I could rescue a rotting GP14. Needless to say, it ended up as fuel for the sailing club bonfire one November the fifth! Yet another case of me biting off more than I could chew.

    Now, where’s my white stick.

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  15. Lyndhurstman

    Lyndhurstman Western Thunderer

    The Time Has Come To Push That Button
    Nothing much to report on the Bolster front. I’ve found that the actual bolsters are plain, so don’t have their pivots (or rubbing plates) with them. So I’ll drop an email to Jim tomorrow to see what can be done.
    In the interim, I’ve finally taken the bull by the horns (vegetarian options are available) and had a go with the Mignon Models RSU.
    This is a first for me, and something of an experience. Just a bit of scrap fret to practice on. I’m using Fry solder paint. I have no clue as to its mixture or preferred temperature - I’ve had it for years, and can’t remember where I got it from. I’ve also had a go with some 60/40. All in all, I’m impressed. And a little relieved! The joints are strong, and a few seconds work is all that’s needed. I’ll keep practicing.



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  16. Lyndhurstman

    Lyndhurstman Western Thunderer

    Well, that was fun! I've just had a very nice chat with Jim McGeown.
    It turns out that the kit I have was from the initial run, which was made when - as highlighted in the instruction booklet -the published information stated that the bolsters were fixed, and Jim interpreted this as the bolster being fixed to the floor. Later kits were updated. So, rather than paying Jim (much as I'd like to.. :) ) for another two complete sets of castings, I'll have a bash at making my own bolster pivot cradles and and swivel tracks. Something to hone my RSU skills upon (unless I make it from plasticard, of course :) ).


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  17. Lyndhurstman

    Lyndhurstman Western Thunderer

    PFreestyle Fettling Fun

    I’ve travelled some roads. Dry, dusty roads, that stretch from beneath you clear out to the horizon. And maybe beyond. Through valleys where the Mesquite rattle dryly in the warm wind, and gulches become torrents beneath winter rains. I’m walking now - my horse just picked up and went several days back.

    My journeying has all been to do with the finding of the Bolster pivot arrangement for this here wagon. I’ve been up to Barrowmore, passed through Tatlow’s 4B, and even dipped into Rowland. I’ve pushed all kinds of words and phrases into search engines, without success. The best I can find up with is a skewed view of the original courtesy of Paul Bartlett.

    In the absence of measurement, and confirmation of same, I’ve done some extrapolating of dimensions from a blowed up picture to give me the rendering you can see in yon photograph. It’s plastic for at the minute, but it may become brass by and by. The bottom plate is the same size of one of IKEA Billy’s fastenings.

    I’ll be getting along. Where I’m going with any of this is yet to be found out. But I know there’s another one waiting for me out there beyond the horizon.

  18. Lyndhurstman

    Lyndhurstman Western Thunderer

    What Difference Does It Make?*
    So, I was looking at the image of the Bolster I’d downloaded from Paul Bartlett’s online goody bag:
    Single bolster - BR, LMS, LNER match runner ZSR ZSP ZSO YYP | B910440___091306_SINGLE__1m_ and it struck me that the beam supplied in Jim’s kit is a bit deep in the foot:
    I would not have worried about this, but Rowland et al has provided the crucial
    dimension from railhead to top of beam:
    ...which leads (verso fag packet methodology caveats apply) to a discrepancy of 4.16” in the reality (about 2.92 mm at 1:43.5). Sadly, the base of the beam is about that thickness, so I’m going to have to reduce it, but not by the whole amount. Or there might be an alternative in shape something like the Plastruct range.
    Whatever happens, at 34,000 ft, the sun is shining.



    *Note: No gladioli were harmed in the making of this post.
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