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[LarryG]

I photographed the sea wall specially for this shot because it was easier than colourising the one in the original photo. It was unfortunate that the older trannies and my colourised pics were rather saturated in the book they appeared in.

Coal Tank No.7803 is near Deganwy working a local service from Llandudno to Rhyl in the mid 1930's, a working that was the forerunner of the post-war 'Welsh Dragon'....

Locophotos

 

[LarryG]

The loco and coach were blown up large and hand lined out using the mouse, while the appearance of gold insignia was done only after some experimentation. I basically 'weathered' parts in the same way I would small models.

LNWR Webb 5ft 6in 2-4-2T No. 6669 (ex LNWR 202) ex works and looking rather smart, busies itself propelling a 6-wheel coach in the carriage sidings at Llandudno Junction in August 1937.

G H Platt/R J Essery collection. 2003 colour conversion.

 

[JasonBz]

I like the shiny LMS Tank - It has just reminded me of a comment my late Dad used to often make.

H was a regular train traveller, en famille in the 30s/40s, mainly using the LMS/GW lines to travel from Sheffield to diverse places in Wales, Gloucestershire and the Marches to go see many a far flung relative (actually we were the far flung ones, the families are still there!)

But back on topic - He always said LMS locos seemed shiny and "new" whereas those on the GW was a bit "less good" (and the NE was really not so good at all!)

 

[LarryG]

I like the shiny LMS Tank - It has just reminded me of a comment my late Dad used to often make.

H was a regular train traveller, en famille in the 30s/40s, mainly using the LMS/GW lines to travel from Sheffield to diverse places in Wales, Gloucestershire and the Marches to go see many a far flung relative (actually we were the far flung ones, the families are still there!)

But back on topic - He always said LMS locos seemed shiny and "new" whereas those on the GW was a bit "less good" (and the NE was really not so good at all!)

An interesting comment Jason. Maybe the Hornbyfan world of spotless GWR locos hauling coaches with spotless white roofs did not actually exist in reality after all ha ha... The things that took place on UK's railways in the late 1920's and the 1930's have to be seen against a backdrop of depression followed by lean times.

 

[LarryG]

Midland lake in colour at Bradford....

 

[P A D]

Hi Larry,
Lovely shot.
That's got to be just outside Forster Square and that was a helluva long footbridge!

Last time I visited it before it was demolished, there was a solitary figure walking away from me near to the far side. I was into photography at the time and tried to take a photo along the bridge, but by the time I got the camera out of the bag, set the exposure and focused, the person was gone. Now if smart phones had been around.......
Cheers,
Peter

 

[Dai88D]

An interesting comment Jason. Maybe the Hornbyfan world of spotless GWR locos hauling coaches with spotless white roofs did not actually exist in reality after all ha ha... The things that took place on UK's railways in the late 1920's and the 1930's have to be seen against a backdrop of depression followed by lean times.

I think I can reconcile this. Obviously, the LMS used to especially polish up stock when it was heading to GWR territory. It’s like football teams upping their game if they play Man U or suchlike.Jason’s post should be here as well so you get the context, see his post above!

 

[LarryG]

Aged seven, it was 1949 before my mind began to make sense of my surroundings. Everything except the new post-war buses looked either dowdy or soot encrusted, so a shiny loco stood out a mile. I well remember a shiny L&YR 2F saddletank with full British Railways on its tanks and a Fowler 2-6-2T similarly adorned in Oldham.

As an aside, both my parents worked and I was left to my own devices most of the time. Street-wise but academically thick, I had only known the 1940's and so knowing a slap would inevitably follow a "silly question", I waited until someone happened to say "I hope the 1950's will be better". At that point I learned that 1950 came after 1949!

A train waits to leave Oldham Clegg Street for Delph in new BR colours. The LMS Period II open third had been converted to push-pull operation.

Original monochrome photo by Jim Davenport.

Well known artist, Eric Bottomley made a fine painting of Clegg Street from this viewpoint. We both attended Oldham School of Art & Crafts, but at different periods. I finally met him on the Llangollen Railway when he was launching his painting of a Dukedog near Carrog.

 

[John D]

I photographed the sea wall specially for this shot because it was easier than colourising the one in the original photo. It was unfortunate that the older trannies and my colourised pics were rather saturated in the book they appeared in.

Coal Tank No.7803 is near Deganwy working a local service from Llandudno to Rhyl in the mid 1930's, a working that was the forerunner of the post-war 'Welsh Dragon'....
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Locophotos

Something very strange......having looked at the Coal Tank photograph again, the right hand sandbox appears to be twice the width of the left hand one.......or is it a trick of the light or are my eyes really that bad? ?

John

 

[LarryG]

I was going to post a pre-war Manchester streamlined bus, but I will avoid anything red for today

A Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway 4-4-0 in full regalia...

 

[Ressaldar]

Something very strange......having looked at the Coal Tank photograph again, the right hand sandbox appears to be twice the width of the left hand one.......or is it a trick of the light or are my eyes really that bad? ?

John

I think that at the lower part of the right hand sandbox, confusion reigns due to the presence of the lamp iron bracket but I cannot work out why the upper part has the 'increased width' perhaps something lurking from behind the smokebox?

regards

Mike
'Worried of Wirral'

 

[LarryG]

On blowing it up, the side of the Coal Tank splasher gave the impression it was part of the front. Now sorted.

 

[John D]

On blowing it up, the side of the Coal Tank splasher gave the impression it was part of the front. Now sorted.

Brill. !!!!!!!!

John

 

[LarryG]

This was done for Greg Fox at Foxline Publishing some years back for a book on Chesterfields railways. I have lost the caption details except to say it is the 1930's...

 

[P A D]

Midland lake in colour at Bradford....

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Hi Larry,
I had to nip in to Bradford Halfords yesterday for a headlamp bulb for my car so had a look around. Halfords is to the right of the loco probably very close to where the right hand end of the footbridge was. I would guess that the "new" Forster Square station is to the left of the carriage and slightly back towards where the original station was. The line out towards Shipley is now hidden by a retail park. The main facade of Forster Square was still intact for many years after the station was rebuild but there is very little of it left now.
Gone are the days.
Cheers,
Peter

 

[Yorkshire Dave]

I would guess that the "new" Forster Square station is to the left of the carriage and slightly back towards where the original station was.

The HMRC building occupies part of the site of the old station behind the hotel (which is still there) with the 'new' Forster Square built on the site of what was the fish dock. Explore georeferenced maps - Map images - National Library of Scotland . Close the instruction pop up and use the blue button slider toward the bottom left of the screen to change the transparency of the overlay - and watch the old streets disappear!

 

[JasonBz]

I think I can reconcile this. Obviously, the LMS used to especially polish up stock when it was heading to GWR territory. It’s like football teams upping their game if they play Man U or suchlike.Jason’s post should be here as well so you get the context, see his post above!

Thinking about it, thats not all that far from the truth!
The LMS part of the journey would have been pretty much mainline to down to Gloucester - over the long bridge, and then onto something a bit less top link to reach the eastern valleys. Post War journeys were through to Swansea, where I hope the GW put on a far better show!!

My Aunt (his sister) was far more of a train enthusiast than my dad was, and she also visited her family more - but that was to the Mid Wales/ Marchers side of the world.....Large amounts of sheep traffic at Craven Arms is something i was told.
Would they have gone via Brum (Sheffield to Ludlow-ish) or Crewe?

 

[P A D]

The HMRC building occupies part of the site of the old station behind the hotel (which is still there) with the 'new' Forster Square built on the site of what was the fish dock. Explore georeferenced maps - Map images - National Library of Scotland . Close the instruction pop up and use the blue button slider toward the bottom left of the screen to change the transparency of the overlay - and watch the old streets disappear!

Hi Dave,
Nice bit of software.

I see I got it completely wrong. The view is looking towards the station which must be in the distance beyond the foot bridge.
Cheers,
Peter

 

[Dai88D]

They could have come down from Crewe, or via Woofferton? And then up the line. Says I without looking up a map, and hence not totally confident! Edit — not sure why Hason’s quote hasn’t come in here. Obviously doing something wrong.

 

[LarryG]

I did this water colour painting based on a black & white photo by (I think) George Heiron. I don't even remember if I did it in art school or some years later in the 1960's....