LMS 12T Glass Truck - MMP Kit

adrian

Flying Squad
As a small break from the loco building I decided to switch to building a MMP Glass Truck. For the simple reason it was advertised as a ScaleSeven kit so I was curious to see what you got. Although that said I haven't got a finescale kit available so I wouldn't really know what the difference was.

The kit certainly seems fully packed, aside from the two large sheets of etchings there were all the bits for the sprung W-irons, a bag of good quality castings with little or no flash on, plenty of strip wood of various sections to make the glass carrying cases, and even a length of thread for the lashing rope. Just over 2 pages of closely typed instructions and 5 pages of drawings.
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I find there's something therapeutic about cutting out etchings and punching lots of half etched rivets, and there are a lot of them! Starting with the main wagon bed, the ends are folded over for the buffer beams. and the solebars need folding and soldering to the main bed.

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Soldering the folded solebars to the main bed was actually quite tricky, there is a small half etch recess for it to sit in but the strip on the main bed being so thin was prone to buckling slightly. Still just taking it slow and steady ended up with a straight and square main bed.

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You may have noticed I've left a large chunk of etching in the middle. This should be cut out for the drop well to fit. However that would leave some narrow strips in the middle and given my clumsy nature felt sure I would bend them. So I'll cut the centre bit out when I'm ready to fit the well tanks.

There was more riveting to be done and a few end plates to solder in.

This being the top side.

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Even the plates underneath are rivetted.

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Finally for now the W-irons are soldered in.

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Next stage is making up all the brackets and leaf springs.
 

lancer1027

Western Thunderer
Looking great Adrian. :bowdown: Although tooooo many little bits to solder for my skills.:(

Looking forward to your next posting on this:thumbs:


Rob:)
 

AndyB

Western Thunderer
I'll be watching this thread closely - there are so many great little ideas in David's kit designs, which I have found useful to adapt in my own efforts.
What thickness are the etches, please?
Andy
 

7mmMick

Western Thunderer
Looking forward to seeing this one progress Adrian, I'm a big fan of MMP kits as I too share a love of rivet punching and lots of detail parts. Could you give us some prototype information and are you modelling a particular wagon ?

ATB Mick
 

AJC

Western Thunderer
That does look a very smart bit of work Adrian. I've no reason to be tempted by his newly released wagons (the LMS Roadstone wagon in particular), running rights on the club 7mm layouts not withstanding, but this does look nice. If you want tiny parts Rob, you should try 4mm :) Applying small parts isn't a matter of skill so much as practise. If you don't attempt it, you'll never be able to.

Adam
 

adrian

Flying Squad
Thanks for the feedback guys - someone does read my rambling script then, or all you all just looking at the photo's.:)

Although tooooo many little bits to solder for my skills.:(
Looking forward to your next posting on this:thumbs:
These are the big bits! The next posting will be all the little bits for the working leaf springs!

What thickness are the etches, please?
The etches are 13 thou thick.

Could you give us some prototype information and are you modelling a particular wagon ?
I've not been able to find much prototype information online, fortunately I have a copy of LMS Wagons, Vol 2. which has a couple of drawings and a few photo's. Apparently there were 66 built in 6 lots and unless I can find a better photo it will end up being one of those in the book under BR ownership.

Thanks, yes I have seen and used those photo's unfortunately I'm nearly at a stage where the photo's stop!
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Thanks for the feedback guys - someone does read my rambling script then, or all you all just looking at the photo's.:)

Photos, then maybe the text LOL

Seriously I read it all, interesting to watch others and learn new tricks and gather tips, problem now is, remembering it all or remembering where I read it so I can go back and check :)
 

Ian G

Western Thunderer
All I can say is enjoy the build, I have only managed 7 MMP dogfish and an 08 to finish.

Ian G
 

Locomodels

Western Thunderer
Looking forward to seeing this one progress Adrian, I'm a big fan of MMP kits as I too share a love of rivet punching and lots of detail parts.
ATB Mick



I'm with you on this Mick, punching rivets is very satisfying.

Really nice work Adrian.
 

adrian

Flying Squad
As mentioned earlier it's now onto the fiddly bits!

First are the axle boxes, these are quite simple to fold up from the single piece. Starting from the left and working to the right shows the various folds required to end up with an axle box complete with pocket for the leaf springs. A dab of solder top and bottom holds it all together.
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Then it's the spring hangers and bump stops - and before anyone comments I know there is an odd number, it's just a couple of spare etchings are included in the fret. So I made them all up so I could select the best ones for the wagon. I did all the folds before punching out the rivets.
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The spring hangers have a little tab on the rear to locate them into the W irons.
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Next instalment hopefully will cover the leaf springs.
 

AndyB

Western Thunderer
I've not been able to find much prototype information online, fortunately I have a copy of LMS Wagons, Vol 2. which has a couple of drawings and a few photo's. Apparently there were 66 built in 6 lots and unless I can find a better photo it will end up being one of those in the book under BR ownership.
"Official Drawings of LMS Wagons No.2" might be useful to you as well -
It has various parts of the GA reproduced, a less-cropped copy of MWv2 plate 50 which shows more of the 3rd wagon, and a nice detailed view of the inside of the well of M700824.

Andy
 
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