Love Lane, B.R. (E) c.1956-59

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
I have just remembered that this tile tale has to be brought up to date!

Last Wednesday, I finally got to the vexing issue of the ridges.

Fortunately there are a number of plain card sheets left over from the tile laser cut, and one or two will be more than enough for this next task.

JB had printed a sheet of batten lines as a guide for the main roof, so using that again I marked out a section with pencil. Then I measured the diagonal pitch of the roof and traced it over the lines. I clamped a straight edge over the sheet and on to the table, enabling me run a set square up and down to accurately repeat the angle of each cut.

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Apologies for the scruffy pencil work, but I wasn't too careful enough with the tools. That wretched laser soot gets everywhere!

I only bothered to do a short strip at this point, just in case the experiment was a failure...

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The first cut came out fine, and I was pleasantly surprised that the tiles fitted perfectly!

I therefore felt confident enough, and for a bit of extra speed, to use the spare off-cut piece (top left in above photo) as a template to cut another couple of runs.

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The trick was to cut the first set of angles up to the diagonal pencil line, then score the fold before turning the template over and making the final cut!

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It would be an idea to make a more durable metal template as there are quite a lot more to cut, but then again, I only need to mark out another one or two more as the job continues, so the added effort might not be worthwhile?

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The next part was to cut some "Tile and a half" strips to let into the increasing sized gaps.

The close up scale in the photo has revealed rather too many wobbles for my liking, so I will try and up the game for the viewing side of the roof...!

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On the end, several more trimmed "tile and a halves" will be required.

Every dozen or so hips, the alignment returns to a slightly trimmed "common" tile, then full width, before another short batch of wide ones to reach the top!

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I was quite happy at the close of play!

The next session should hopefully see the technique polished, and the pace heated up a bit too?

Pete.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Thanks JB "N"!

So do I! It is getting a bit knocked about round the edges already!

Mind you, that's always a problem with any finely detailed model anyway, including loco's and rolling stock?

I have found that Resin-W soaks well into the paper and wood, but best of all, cures quite hard. A good coating of matt enamels will also soak in from the outside and set fairly firm too - so it should be reasonably tough in the end?

Being made of paper, a repair should be a fairly straightforward job though. A few new tiles in a slightly different colour here and there would look entirely plausible?

Pete.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
The finale of the roof saga is getting nearer!

Notwithstanding my own sloth like progress, a minor, no perhaps major hiccup occurred that has set me back for the last two Wednesdays!

All the tile courses were carefully measured out - with a template - and appear to be perfectly parallel. The roof sections were laser-cut so should be precise, and indeed everything has lined up fine on the four gables and the viewing end hip.

But guess what? As I glued the last few tiles tiredly toward the top ridge of the last one - I found an additional row of tiles...

"What the blue blazes?"

I didn't feel there was any alternative to ripping a block back off as a last resort, and trying to re-align with a refreshed mind and body at the next session.

This then was the beginning of the end:

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Apologies for such a dull picture - but it matched my mood!

So for all to see; here is the previously bungled attempt to joggle my way out of serious trouble.

Those top arris's would have to come off too, but I made a start cutting the first of the awkwardly stepped replacement tiles...

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Although this was going to give me a little wriggle room, I had by now realised that an awful cheating subterfuge might just be possible!

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Here is the "good" end:

The old clay tiles were rather vulnerable to frost and wind damage, so before priming, and using images of the prototype taken variously in the 1930's to 1950's, I have selected a few to chip or cut out completely.

And finally, the "dodgy" end, and very nearly my wits end:

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Another missing arris up near the top, with the second one above slipped and possibly just about to fall...?

After all, there had been a terrific storm the night before, wiv loads of rain and 'ail and lightnin'...!

I should be told to "get my cards" eh?

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It only needs the bright orange terra cotta "Cock's-comb" ridges, a rather dirty pinkish weathering job and some flashing up there now...

Then I'll be able to come out and play again...!

Pete.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Gosh!

I must admit, I was rather looking forward to a break from tiling...

...but then there is lead sheet by the acre to be applied to the booking office roof, staircases and canopies too, so I can't come back down from my lofty perch just yet...?!

Pete.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Sorry David, I'm rather afraid that my own difficulties with this one might be putting you off a bit?!

In hindsight, it might have been wise to print more sheets of tile template on plain paper, setting out all the courses first, then when happy that everything was lined up, cut to fit and glue it down on the roof in the fashion of a felt underlay! The hips could then be laid next with some confidence that the tile strips will perfectly align. Each strip would only need to be trimmed where it buts up to the hips, instead of the right royal rod that I made for my own back by having to cut umpteen individual "closer" tiles?

As John has gently reminded me, we do have some apprentices eager to "have a go", and that I did take this roof on with a somewhat personal determination to finish what I had started!

Although I was only jesting about tiling, I will admit that I'm quite keen to get on, and the Stationmaster's house roof (smaller, but not much less awkward) could be ideal for trying the new theory. Doubtless the patience of the volunteers might be thoroughly tested too?!

Every model roof is always a challenge, to say the very least. Whatever type, variety or scale (please don't ask Heather for further comment about half etched brass GWR clerestories!) the task will be tedious at best, but mostly downright frustrating!

I have to keep reminding myself; It is always a really good feeling after having "got your head down for the long haul", that you often quite suddenly discover the job is actually done!!

Pete.
 
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Eastsidepilot

Western Thunderer
..................................the task will be tedious at best, but mostly downright frustrating!

I have to keep reminding myself; It is always a really good feeling after having "got your head down for the long haul", that you often quite suddenly discover the job is actually done!!

Pete.

Agreed Pete :rolleyes::thumbs::D

Col.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Yesterday, a rather short handed Love Lane crew were busy building more plywood baseboards. During our break there was much talk about preferred rails; bullhead or flat-bottom as well as issues with point and crossing construction.

Later, I was having a look through some reference material and found this rather surprising crossover on GER territory in the 1950's:

With apologies to the copyright owner, and the usual research disclaimers, I couldn't resist putting up a cropped section of the photo to prove that there really is a prototype for the unexpected, improbable or downright unbelievable!

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A fantastic lash-up, and not just for the interesting sleeper spacing and interlacing - look for the gap inside the four foot!

We would never get away with something like that - even when hidden away in a fiddle yard?!

Meanwhile, back to my own bodged tile job...

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We had the "cockscomb" ridges 3D printed in clear plastic. The detail is exquisitely crisp and fine, but they are desperately thin and rather fragile, with an alarming propensity to shatter when cutting!

Thank goodness for good old, thick, gap filling superglue I say...?!

The tile joints had to be kept shallow and are barely visible now that the dark brownish grey undercoat is on. Unfortunately, I cannot apply any washes to highlight those joints as the printing process leaves a myriad of microscopic grooves on the surfaces. I intend to carefully pick out each tile with a slightly different shade of orange, and then paint in some neat brownish black with a very fine brush where required.

The rest of the roof should be a fun dry brushing exercise in dull pink!

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Then after all that I might be caught doing quite a bit of flashing...

...with a pair of scissors and a roll of self adhesive aluminium foil of course...!

Pete.
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
... I was having a look through some reference material and found this rather surprising crossover on GER territory in the 1950's: With apologies to the copyright owner, and the usual research disclaimers, I couldn't resist putting up a cropped section of the photo to prove that there really is a prototype for the unexpected, improbable or downright unbelievable!

A fantastic lash-up, and not just for the interesting sleeper spacing and interlacing - look for the gap inside the four foot!
Not sure what you are referencing re-gap inside four foot, please expand.

What I have not seen before is a check rail made of two pieces of rail joined by a fishplate... or check rails with stud blocks as well as rail fixings (clips on baseplates?).
 

Scale7JB

Western Thunderer
Think Pete is referring to this..

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If so, Peter, take a look at the point work at Bishops Stortford Loco...

JB.
 
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