Love Lane, B.R. (E) c.1956-59

Stevesopwith

Western Thunderer
"I wonder if Steve could elaborate on the masterpiece gate. I believe all the joins are real mortice and tenon joints? "

Well, sort of. I set up my aging Unimat SL as a milling machine. I marked the positions of the horizontal bars on the uprights. These were held central to the drill axis in the machine vice. I then used a twist drill of a suitable diameter as a crude milling cutter, making several passes till it cut right through. Once all the slots (mortises? ) were done, the rounded ends were filed square with a 1mm square needle file... now £45 from Squires :eek:.

The heavier section top and bottom rails were butt jointed, reinforced with brass wire pins.
 

Scale7JB

Western Thunderer
The air is a lot thinner up there, you know...

I haven't seen the article yet, but I'm glad the L1 got featured, it's by far the most precious loco of the collection.

JB.
 

P A D

Western Thunderer
The air is a lot thinner up there, you know...

I haven't seen the article yet, but I'm glad the L1 got featured, it's by far the most precious loco of the collection.

JB.

Hi JB,
I can understand your feelings towards the L1. It was an inspirational build and gave me something to aim for when I was building mine. Hopefully our paths will cross at some show or other, as it I'd love to see it in the flesh.
Cheers,
Peter
 

Scale7JB

Western Thunderer
Hi JB,
I can understand your feelings towards the L1. It was an inspirational build and gave me something to aim for when I was building mine. Hopefully our paths will cross at some show or other, as it I'd love to see it in the flesh.
Cheers,
Peter

I think there is a good chance of that Peter..

JB.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
John said to me the other day: "You've been rather quiet lately?"

"Oh no, I've been making just as much noise as usual - but with all the machinery going in the workshop, you just didn't hear me" I replied.

"I was only being civil, there's no need to ignore me"

"Did you say something then?"

"Pardon?"

I'm afraid that I have not just been inaudible, but invisible as well for a while. Some might say that is no bad thing, but hey?!

Chris (Pencarrow) is making some lovely doors for his layout, so I think this is a good time to post our own latest, albeit late on here:

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The Great Eastern Railway were clearly rather optimistic about potential traffic in what remained pretty rural Grange Hill and Chigwell, so Love Lane station has no less than three of these gaping holes to fill in the frontage.

The stations were originally provided with magnificently solid, double, and fielded six panelled affairs. A bit of a task to model?! My attempt at delaminating channels on the first laser cut doors was quite unsatisfactory, so a second batch were redrawn and made up, this time with the detail expertly engraved!

The views within the booking hall from those doorways will be excellent and ideal for photography, but would be lost if any of the doors are permanently set in a closed position. Having already had some success with trial hinges in one thirty second scale (Bagshot) - as well as a couple of goes in 7 mil, (for Intentio) to prove the potential, I felt that there was nothing to lose.

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The new doors were double skinned for two reasons: Primarily, strength and rigidity is achieved by gluing two thin layers and pressing them under heavy flat weights to set, thus ensuring they remain nice and straight, but it also provided neat and clean rebates on the closing edges.

Now for the hinges...

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THIS IS THE CRITICAL BIT:

To make the door sit properly in the frames, these diagonal cuts on the inside face (that the door opens toward) are required.

An advantage is that they provide a flat surface to drill two diagonal holes for each of the fine wire loops.

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Now when set, the hinge loops are flush on the edge, but practically invisible on the front and viewing face of the door.

I forgot to take pictures of the next part, so am harking back to Bagshot for the next couple...

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I have used a notably thinner wire for the pins to allow for a bit of adjustment, vertical slop and ease of inserting into single drilled holes in the frames!

Both these, and the loops will project through to the outside of the doors and frames, but being soft brass, are soon smoothed with a few swipes with a needle file!

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Back at Love Lane, finally primed and set up...

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I must admit that it would have been best to pre paint the doors before hanging them, but in this case I was glad I hadn't done so:

Under normal circumstances, the doors and frames would have been made up as complete assemblies. Fully aligned, tested, tweaked and thoroughly trialled to satisfaction before installation.

This time, the frames and their hopper windows had already been firmly - very firmly glued in! If the doors had been pre-painted, they would have ended up in quite a mess? An awful lot of contortion, fiddling and some very loud, naughty words were used to reach this point.

The workshop machinery must have been making even more noise than I was aware of...?

Going deaf...?

Pardon!

Pete.
 

Pencarrow

Western Thunderer
Thanks for that description and photos Pete, very neat.

Will have to have a think about if it could be adapted for the provender on Pencarrow. Unlike yours, my doors open outwards (and therefore the filed rebate will be visible) and also have to swing a full 180deg (let me know if yours will open this far?).

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Your method is certainly filed away for reuse when I come to my station building.
 
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Tim Humphreys ex Mudhen

Western Thunderer
John said to me the other day: "You've been rather quiet lately?"

"Oh no, I've been making just as much noise as usual - but with all the machinery going in the workshop, you just didn't hear me" I replied.

"I was only being civil, there's no need to ignore me"

"Did you say something then?"

"Pardon?"

I'm afraid that I have not just been inaudible, but invisible as well for a while. Some might say that is no bad thing, but hey?!

Chris (Pencarrow) is making some lovely doors for his layout, so I think this is a good time to post our own latest, albeit late on here:

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The Great Eastern Railway were clearly rather optimistic about potential traffic in what remained pretty rural Grange Hill and Chigwell, so Love Lane station has no less than three of these gaping holes to fill in the frontage.

The stations were originally provided with magnificently solid, double, and fielded six panelled affairs. A bit of a task to model?! My attempt at delaminating channels on the first laser cut doors was quite unsatisfactory, so a second batch were redrawn and made up, this time with the detail expertly engraved!

The views within the booking hall from those doorways will be excellent and ideal for photography, but would be lost if any of the doors are permanently set in a closed position. Having already had some success with trial hinges in one thirty second scale (Bagshot) - as well as a couple of goes in 7 mil, (for Intentio) to prove the potential, I felt that there was nothing to lose.

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The new doors were double skinned for two reasons: Primarily, strength and rigidity is achieved by gluing two thin layers and pressing them under heavy flat weights to set, thus ensuring they remain nice and straight, but it also provided neat and clean rebates on the closing edges.

Now for the hinges...

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THIS IS THE CRITICAL BIT:

To make the door sit properly in the frames, these diagonal cuts on the inside face (that the door opens toward) are required.

An advantage is that they provide a flat surface to drill two diagonal holes for each of the fine wire loops.

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Now when set, the hinge loops are flush on the edge, but practically invisible on the front and viewing face of the door.

I forgot to take pictures of the next part, so am harking back to Bagshot for the next couple...

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I have used a notably thinner wire for the pins to allow for a bit of adjustment, vertical slop and ease of inserting into single drilled holes in the frames!

Both these, and the loops will project through to the outside of the doors and frames, but being soft brass, are soon smoothed with a few swipes with a needle file!

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Back at Love Lane, finally primed and set up...

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I must admit that it would have been best to pre paint the doors before hanging them, but in this case I was glad I hadn't done so:

Under normal circumstances, the doors and frames would have been made up as complete assemblies. Fully aligned, tested, tweaked and thoroughly trialled to satisfaction before installation.

This time, the frames and their hopper windows had already been firmly - very firmly glued in! If the doors had been pre-painted, they would have ended up in quite a mess? An awful lot of contortion, fiddling and some very loud, naughty words were used to reach this point.

The workshop machinery must have been making even more noise than I was aware of...?

Going deaf...?

Pardon!

Pete.


Come to the Albury spring meeting this Saturday and you can see this fantastic work of Petes and even talk to him about his methods and experiences. Also come and watch Love Lane in operation.
Please see the Exhibitions thread for full details.

Tim
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Big heavy outward opening warehouse doors would usually have external strap hinges, in which case the slots can be covered by the strap ends.

Heavy duty butt hinges are a bit more difficult to disguise, but then again I have found that with care they can be made fairly unobtrusive. Oddly, by ensuring that the hinges are positioned prototypically, and the fact that they work - with the doors swinging correctly, tends to help the eye to ignore any slight shortcomings ??

The funny thing I found about making these hinges is that they are so basically simple and relatively easy to make, that once you've done one set you will end up wondering why on earth you ever got hold of the glue and stuck everything solid before ?!

You might even find yourself looking for any damned excuse to fit them ?!

Pete.
 
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