7mm Mickoo's Commercial Workbench

Dave Holt

Western Thunderer
Gunmetal fittings, such as the brake ejector and blower valves and copper pipe work which carry steam at boiler pressure turn dark grey due to the heat after a very short time. On our loco (35006), the regulator housing and fire hole doors are badly rusted due to heat taking the paint off after only 3 years in service. I bet BR locos suffered exactly the same and were probably less well cared for.
Dave.
 

richard carr

Western Thunderer
Mick

Although it's nice, it's still a bit flat, dry brushing some silver on the edge of things would give some shiny highlights. I would also blacken the main bras items and then remove the blackening with a cotton wool brush.
It really comes down to how much time you want to put into it, weathering takes a lot more time than most people imagine, it's not just a quick waft with an airbrush !
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
I've been threatening, promising to do this for some time, and so the time has come.

A light blocking smoke box interior and blast pipe, the huge gaping chimney leaves a big hole through which you can see the track and at some angles the slide bars and connecting rods.

It's a simple fold up affair, compromised slightly by the thickness of the resin sides, but none the less does what it says on the tin.

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The casting for the middle cylinder top sits in a recess, from my research so far, there are two types, those with a flat rim around the sloping top to the casting (as modeled here) and those with a sloping rim that follows the slope in the casting. The latter would require a different smokebox floor that also slopes and not the easy simple flat one we have here.

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Which engines have which or when they were changed and from which type to which, I have no idea. The Brighton drawings I've seen show a flat floor, some preserved engines have a sloped floor.

I've only modeled up to the mid way point, that's as far as you can see peering down the chimney. I do want to make at least one model with an open smoke box door, but that will require a whole new etched front end overlay and cutting back of the resin casting. When I do that I'll develop the smoke box interior above half way.

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It's quite simple in there, no idea what the pipe coming out the front of the blast pipe casting is for, but the blower ring is obvious as are the two live steam 4" pipes to the middle cylinder. Up front are the 7" live steam supplies to the outside cylinders, they should be corrugated and I'll develop a casting as such for the full smoke box package later, as such you only see the merest sliver of the base of the pipes in this set up.

On the real engines, most of the recessed area is filled with concrete to protect the casting from the corrosive ash/moisture/heat, I've not filled mine yet, it seems such a shame to loose most of that detail. Simulating the sloppy concrete daubed by hand, whilst retaining some detail will be a chore; I'll need to work on some sort of resin or sloppy filler that can be sort of poured in there really.

The view originally allowed a direct view down to the tracks or outside motion.

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I was pleasantly happy at how much of the new interior was visible once installed, it's hard to photograph and get light in there, but even when you don't shine a light in there it is still readily visible. It'll be a little harder once it's painted, but some light weathering and highlights should show some detail.

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Failing all that, it's a complicated way to not see the track any more :eek:
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Tony,

Not sure on the future options at the moment, it needs some fine tuning here and there to take it to the next level.
 
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mickoo

Western Thunderer
Last up date this weekend.....honest :cool:

It's been a while since I've had the crayons out (20+ years - 1/35 AFV), so as far as weathering goes, I'm a little rusty.

Anyway, back to the back head to colour some more bits in, weathering is highly subjective and I'm getting to the point where I'm feeling that less is no longer more so this is it, except maybe to add a billy can to the shelf.

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The smoke box module also got a dunk of paint and some crayons daubed over it, it looks a bit garish but once inside the engine tones down nicely to give just enough contrast.

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It does need some texture though, so the next step is to add some suitable crushed material in the nooks and crannies, an attempt to give it a little more depth but not loose all the moulded detail on the cylinder top, though as mentioned before, it should all be filled with concrete. For once I'm happy to bend the 1:1 rules to get the result I want.
 

LarryG

Western Thunderer
Tough :shit: :D

Reality is, even clean exterior locos usually have crap cabs, unless it's preserved or stuffed and mounted in a museum.
Spot on! The further we pass on from steam days, the more a revised 'reality' takes over among modellers.

As an aside, I was asked by a 4mm RTR manufacturer some years ago to pick out cab details on a loco they sent along to act as a pattern in China. From then on all cabs details have been handsomely picked out.
 

Lyndhurstman

Western Thunderer
Last up date this weekend.....honest :cool:

It's been a while since I've had the crayons out (20+ years - 1/35 AFV), so as far as weathering goes, I'm a little rusty.

Anyway, back to the back head to colour some more bits in, weathering is highly subjective and I'm getting to the point where I'm feeling that less is no longer more so this is it, except maybe to add a billy can to the shelf.

I think you've nailed it, here. Hammer: nail: head. Bang.
The patina, and diffentation wrt the cladding is spot on. It makes me quite nostalgic for the 1:1 experience of being on the footplate.
Well done.

Cheers

Jan
 

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
Because they're American....:eek:

I suspect it is to distinguish it from other products in their range, accurately describes what it can be used for and particle size - fine, medium, coarse etc.

In the UK we used to (and probably still do!) refer to it as flock or scatter material without any reference to the particle size - 4mm scale dinner plates I seem to recall.

And remember the lurid van Gogh colour palette of flocks available when you first started modelling? nuclear green, sun yellow, poppy red....
 

2-Bil

Western Thunderer
MD ....Saw the eye arresting BUDE at Reading---superb--and now ,even magnified, the backhead weathering --- highly convincing--- truly a shame it'll be mostly hid in shadow ......One thing--(with respect)--is missing though ..................Yellow cab side triangle...........Regards etc Brian W--------
 

warren haywood

Western Thunderer
MD ....Saw the eye arresting BUDE at Reading---superb--and now ,even magnified, the backhead weathering --- highly convincing--- truly a shame it'll be mostly hid in shadow ......One thing--(with respect)--is missing though ..................Yellow cab side triangle...........Regards etc Brian W--------

Dohh, the yellow triangle is my fault, it will be attended to when I get the loco back to take for DCC:(
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Mick - Sorry, I'm a bit late with this - and it's spoilt by the camera case strap being in the way. However, it's the cab of 34104 at Eastleigh shed on 2 May 1965 as working loco. (My copyright). I reckon you have the weathering just about right!

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Brian
Cheers Brian,

Interestingly, the heat shield (not a common feature and quite rare) twixt driver and fire hole door is braced to the tray above the door, that feature I have not seen before.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Got bored with the TV so went back and did the smoke box plate work, I think the gap on the real thing is a touch less, but so far I'm happy with this as a basis to move on.

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The plate work is not fitted down yet and there's a strap to run across the rear joint to add as yet.
 
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