Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
Much appreciated Daifly thank you!
MOK Q1
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Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
A bit more Q1 tender work, just love the castings they go on so well.
Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
On another topic, may as well put it here - another chuff n puff loco has been prepared for Newhurst.
Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
Pushed the Q1 on a bit further, time to do the chassis now.
Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
And we now have wheels!
P A D
Western Thunderer
If they did, Cliff has no idea which way round they were attached! 
Cliff,
I as I recall, this is your first MOK build. How do rate the design approach compared to Finney? Personally, I prefer the Finney approach as exemplified by the A3 and A4 and thought the MOK (4MT tank) overly complex in places. A brilliant piece of design and an absolute pleasure to build non the less.
Looking at Mickoos W1 build, he and the Finney 7 team have taken Martin's concept to the next level, so it will interesting to see how things develop on that front.
Super work on the Q1, but in they end it will be a beautifully made ugly duckling.
Cheers,
Peter
Cliff,
I as I recall, this is your first MOK build. How do rate the design approach compared to Finney? Personally, I prefer the Finney approach as exemplified by the A3 and A4 and thought the MOK (4MT tank) overly complex in places. A brilliant piece of design and an absolute pleasure to build non the less.
Looking at Mickoos W1 build, he and the Finney 7 team have taken Martin's concept to the next level, so it will interesting to see how things develop on that front.
Super work on the Q1, but in they end it will be a beautifully made ugly duckling.
Cheers,
Peter
Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
Surprised you never heard of the extended range 47 trials using old Bulleid tenders? Wasn’t a success though
Peter
I find the MOK Q1 to be an absolute pleasure to build. I had previously rated the Finney Duchess as probably the best kit back in 2002, things have changed a bit!
I have not used solder in anger for ten years having done a run of resin kits, there is a back catalogue of MOK in the queue along with Finney kits.
I think the early Finney kits are a tad basic with a 28xx sitting partly done from ten years ago. The 47xx is a nice kit.
The Finney A3 was a good kit having built a few of those, never did an A4 though. There are a few sitting in the queue with AGH wheels to keep me busy.
I am looking forward to trying a Finney7 revamped T9 at some point for Newhurst, the B1 could be a cracker too.
BW
Cliff
Peter
I find the MOK Q1 to be an absolute pleasure to build. I had previously rated the Finney Duchess as probably the best kit back in 2002, things have changed a bit!
I have not used solder in anger for ten years having done a run of resin kits, there is a back catalogue of MOK in the queue along with Finney kits.
I think the early Finney kits are a tad basic with a 28xx sitting partly done from ten years ago. The 47xx is a nice kit.
The Finney A3 was a good kit having built a few of those, never did an A4 though. There are a few sitting in the queue with AGH wheels to keep me busy.
I am looking forward to trying a Finney7 revamped T9 at some point for Newhurst, the B1 could be a cracker too.
BW
Cliff
Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
One MOK Q1 tender finished with no hitches through the build.
I did increase the brake block to wheel tread gap to just over a millimetre, experience has shown any less than that causes high risks of shorts on DCC.
I did increase the brake block to wheel tread gap to just over a millimetre, experience has shown any less than that causes high risks of shorts on DCC.
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Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
Bob Langford introduced himself and asked about the Q1 tender missing centre box leaf spring riser as he had made the pattern for Dave.
I found it so it’s out with the gas axe shortly. I must check and see if it is mentioned in the instructions, it is listed on the parts list but I think that is all.
You can see the difference on the centre axle box here:
Southern Q1
I found it so it’s out with the gas axe shortly. I must check and see if it is mentioned in the instructions, it is listed on the parts list but I think that is all.
You can see the difference on the centre axle box here:
Southern Q1
Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
Thanks to Bob Langford who made the Q1 patterns, I have fitted a part not mentioned in the MOK instructions, but was in the kit, so I will give these pics to Dave at MOK too.
I retrofitted mine by blow torching off the axle box, soldering on the part then refitting in a few minutes.
I retrofitted mine by blow torching off the axle box, soldering on the part then refitting in a few minutes.
Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
Thanks to Willie Bath he has pointed out the rear vertical link is the wrong way round on the preserved Q1 and also in the kit instructions.
The vertical link has the long slot to the bottom and not the top.
I have checked a few period shots and Willie is correct.
The vertical link has the long slot to the bottom and not the top.
I have checked a few period shots and Willie is correct.
Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
Some inspiration was sought over the Summer to get back on the MOK Q1 kit, from the turntable of the NRM.
Distractions aside time to get on with it again.
Distractions aside time to get on with it again.
