MRJ236 and Those Wagons
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Gilling is remarkable, an excellent scale model railway but writ very large. There are two weekends a year when they have a Mainline Rally. The train of Mark 1 coaches made by Doug are incredible, especially when being hauled by Earl Marischal. If you know how to put a freight train together - can recognise your cattle wagons from your bolsters then Doug is pleased to put you in charge of a yard, with a manned loco which will shunt as you request. But you have to work to the very complex and detailed timetable.
And all for a donation in the box! See http://www.rsme.org.uk/ The 2015 Main-Line Rallies will be on May 16th, 17th and August 29th, 30th, 31st.
Paul Bartlett
Puddlejumper
Western Thunderer
I have never been to Gilling despite only living an hour away, must remedy that this year.....
AndyB
Western Thunderer
I hope no-one minds me bringing up an old thread (and maybe a bit of temptation) again.
The GL5 Society recently had a weekend of running at a ground level track local to me, so I took my train loving daughter to see them and snap a few pictures. I have a few more if these whet your appetites sufficiently!
Enjoy,
Andy
Working colour light and semaphore signals, controlled from the signal box ...
There were 4 of these Pullman carriages - just missing the cutlery on the tables!
The GL5 Society recently had a weekend of running at a ground level track local to me, so I took my train loving daughter to see them and snap a few pictures. I have a few more if these whet your appetites sufficiently!
Enjoy,
Andy
Working colour light and semaphore signals, controlled from the signal box ...
There were 4 of these Pullman carriages - just missing the cutlery on the tables!
Scale7JB
Western Thunderer
You're a very bad man!
JB.
John Miller
Western Thunderer
Great pictures Andy - it would be good to see some of the locos too.
Is that a private track or a club one?
Thanks ....
- John
AndyB
Western Thunderer
John,
It's a club track - home of the Derby Society of Model & Experimental Engineers.
The loco pictures I took aren't very good, but I'll do a separate post on them later.
Andy
Steve Cook
Flying Squad
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Steve Cook
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Steve Cook
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Possibly of interest to people here is the news that a book on Constructing 5" Gauge Wagons is to be published by the HMRS, written by Doug Hewson (MRJ236 wagons).
A link to a pdf by the HMRS is available here and goes into a bit more detail.
Whilst it at face value it appears to be orientated towards the model engineer side of things, I suspect that a lot of people would enjoy the detail in how wagons were built and how that is translated to the smaller scales. With a promise of 900 photos, 320 pages and A3 and A2 drawings (see copy of the email I received from Paul Bartlett below) it could well be one to invest in.
Steve
"Dear All
I have never troubled you with an email from my Zenfolio site before, so first off I must thank all of you for the interest you have shown in my photographs down the years.
As you have shown this interest in wagons and other rolling stock I want to bring to your attention a very special offer from the HMRS.
At the end of May 2017 the HMRS will be publishing this book, "Modelling 5 inch gauge wagons" by Doug Hewson. Until 31st March it will be available at the very attractive advance subscription price of £30 plus £6.50 p&p (UK). After 31st March the price will be £50 plus p&p. All advance subscribers will be listed in the book. The reason for taking this approach is that the book is rather outside the Society's normal range of activities and it therefore needs to gauge demand before printing.
The book will be 320 pages with over 900 prototype, model and construction photographs, 35 detailed A2 and A3 drawings specifically produced for modellers, and many more detail drawings in the text. It will be an essential read not just for those modelling in the large scales but anyone who wishes to make accurate models of wagons.
There is a fuller description, including a contents list at http://www.hmrs.org.uk/books/1043.pdf and some examples of pages in this topic Building 5 inch gauge wagons by Doug Hewson - Books
I would like to emphasise what a "different" book this will be. The drawings at A2 and A3 are both large and examine a wagon in great detail. There are also other detail drawings - such as the hybar in the page shown in the RMWeb link. There is also a general well illustrated history of many of the common types of wagons - breaking away from the usual formula of restriction to a Company or time period. Although appearing to be aimed at model engineers I sincerely believe all modellers and wagon historians will find this book valuable. For example, questions are often posed about how to finish the brake linkages on various models (Parkside and Slaters notably). The drawings will help to explain how to do this, because they show the prototype. Many of the prototype photos were also new to me when I saw an early manuscript.
If you are interested please Email treasurer@hmrs.org.uk including contact details to enable the preorders to be processed (or see hmrs.org.uk). After the 31st March this book will cost more, if not over 50% more.
Thanks again for reading this far, and for supporting my Zenfolio site.
Paul Bartlett"
A link to a pdf by the HMRS is available here and goes into a bit more detail.
Whilst it at face value it appears to be orientated towards the model engineer side of things, I suspect that a lot of people would enjoy the detail in how wagons were built and how that is translated to the smaller scales. With a promise of 900 photos, 320 pages and A3 and A2 drawings (see copy of the email I received from Paul Bartlett below) it could well be one to invest in.
Steve
"Dear All
I have never troubled you with an email from my Zenfolio site before, so first off I must thank all of you for the interest you have shown in my photographs down the years.
As you have shown this interest in wagons and other rolling stock I want to bring to your attention a very special offer from the HMRS.
At the end of May 2017 the HMRS will be publishing this book, "Modelling 5 inch gauge wagons" by Doug Hewson. Until 31st March it will be available at the very attractive advance subscription price of £30 plus £6.50 p&p (UK). After 31st March the price will be £50 plus p&p. All advance subscribers will be listed in the book. The reason for taking this approach is that the book is rather outside the Society's normal range of activities and it therefore needs to gauge demand before printing.
The book will be 320 pages with over 900 prototype, model and construction photographs, 35 detailed A2 and A3 drawings specifically produced for modellers, and many more detail drawings in the text. It will be an essential read not just for those modelling in the large scales but anyone who wishes to make accurate models of wagons.
There is a fuller description, including a contents list at http://www.hmrs.org.uk/books/1043.pdf and some examples of pages in this topic Building 5 inch gauge wagons by Doug Hewson - Books
I would like to emphasise what a "different" book this will be. The drawings at A2 and A3 are both large and examine a wagon in great detail. There are also other detail drawings - such as the hybar in the page shown in the RMWeb link. There is also a general well illustrated history of many of the common types of wagons - breaking away from the usual formula of restriction to a Company or time period. Although appearing to be aimed at model engineers I sincerely believe all modellers and wagon historians will find this book valuable. For example, questions are often posed about how to finish the brake linkages on various models (Parkside and Slaters notably). The drawings will help to explain how to do this, because they show the prototype. Many of the prototype photos were also new to me when I saw an early manuscript.
If you are interested please Email treasurer@hmrs.org.uk including contact details to enable the preorders to be processed (or see hmrs.org.uk). After the 31st March this book will cost more, if not over 50% more.
Thanks again for reading this far, and for supporting my Zenfolio site.
Paul Bartlett"
adrian
Flying Squad
and including a chapter on weathering - I'm seriously tempted.
Steve Cook
Flying Squad
Join the club, send the email 
In my opinion (as wagon perv and lover of all things engineering), its going to struggle to fail - I have it down as one of 'those' books where the pleasure of ownership and reading will be enjoyed long after the price is forgotten. Its nice to be able to buy one when they come out rather than having to man up to the increased cost after printing ends - heres looking at you 'Rails Through The Sand' and '18 Gauge Steam Railways'
Steve
In my opinion (as wagon perv and lover of all things engineering), its going to struggle to fail - I have it down as one of 'those' books where the pleasure of ownership and reading will be enjoyed long after the price is forgotten. Its nice to be able to buy one when they come out rather than having to man up to the increased cost after printing ends - heres looking at you 'Rails Through The Sand' and '18 Gauge Steam Railways'
Steve
jamiepage
Western Thunderer
Email sent, thanks Steve.
As it happens, I succumbed a few weeks ago to the itch, and bought a kit for an MR (actually, also MSWJR) 3 plank dropside. It's a big box, full of very good things.
Here are the leaf springs straight from the box.
'mswjr' visits here, and he has a splendid 5 plank Gloucester PO wagon.
As it happens, I succumbed a few weeks ago to the itch, and bought a kit for an MR (actually, also MSWJR) 3 plank dropside. It's a big box, full of very good things.
Here are the leaf springs straight from the box.
'mswjr' visits here, and he has a splendid 5 plank Gloucester PO wagon.
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Steve Cook
Flying Squad
Both sound delightful Jamie
I hope you enjoy the build, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts when the time comes.
Given its still chucking it down here, may be a good time for a brew and a reread of MRJ236...
I hope you enjoy the build, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts when the time comes.
Given its still chucking it down here, may be a good time for a brew and a reread of MRJ236...
Simon
Flying Squad
I think I'm going to succumb too, it can't fail to be at the least very useful to wagon detail/building freaks - those leaf springs of Jamie's look lovely.
As to whether I stock it in the shop after publication, I think yes to that too.
I'm otherwise back on the (brake) wagon, third time lucky with the axle guards, hopefully
Simon
As to whether I stock it in the shop after publication, I think yes to that too.
I'm otherwise back on the (brake) wagon, third time lucky with the axle guards, hopefully
Simon
