4mm P4 Southern Region 3rd rail, 1975 - 1980

adrian

Flying Squad
Thanks for posting, I'd seen it yesterday and also thought it might be of interest here. Never mind that it's SR 3rd rail the buildings and detailing is superb. The guy has a long history in war gaming and military diorama's and it shines through in the buildings.

For example the last photo in this posting
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/in...gton-p4-southern-region-circa-7580/?p=1206095

caught my eye, just a few concrete pillars but the one that has deteriorated with the rusting re-inforcing steel showing through is brilliantly observed.

Definitely one for the watch list.
 

Dan Randall

Western Thunderer
Thanks for posting, I'd seen it yesterday and also thought it might be of interest here. Never mind that it's SR 3rd rail the buildings and detailing is superb. The guy has a long history in war gaming and military diorama's and it shines through in the buildings.

For example the last photo in this posting
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/in...gton-p4-southern-region-circa-7580/?p=1206095

caught my eye, just a few concrete pillars but the one that has deteriorated with the rusting re-inforcing steel showing through is brilliantly observed.

Definitely one for the watch list.



Yes, I noticed the crumbling concrete with exposed re-bar too. Very nicely done and on my list of things to incorporate when I get around to building a layout! ;)


Regards

Dan
 

AndyS

Member
Bad news folks, layout builder has left RMWeb due to a disagreement with principles of 'other' forum activities. :(
 
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Celticwardog

Guest
Hello

I have just registered here and found this thread by a bizarre search. I must thank you for the kind comments (the person behind the now defunct thread you are talking about is me...well me and a mate, he builds I paint!). I will soon start a layout thread but not sure what the theme of this site actually is. We are doing southern region but will include a Western, we have just got the new Heljan BR Blue with full yellow ends, forget the name it is (lol) but it's going to be renamed Renown anyway (I like the names of these...they are very Star Trek!)
 

Heather Kay

Western Thunderer
Hi Celticwardog! Welcome aboard!

While this forum has a general Western Region bias, it is still a broad church. Once you settle in, you'll find threads about all sorts of modelling, not just of the diesel hydraulic variety.
 
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Celticwardog

Guest
Thanks Heather and Mick. I shall introduce myself in the new members bit but had to respond to this thread, as it's about me.

Just had a look at your photos Heather, very impressive stuff. Hemyock caught my eye, exceptional station building....complete with Princess Diana or a young Mrs Thatcher it looks like!
 
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Celticwardog

Guest
Given this thread has already been started I might as well plonk it here....

Shelvington:

In The Beginning (pardon the repeats):

Layout Name - Shelvington
Scale/Gauge - p4
Size (length/width/height... not forgetting to include operating space!) -Stage 1 4.7m x .45m with stage 2 6.25 x 3.25 in an 'L' max width .45m
Potentially an exhibition layout
End-to end
BR/SR early 1975Era/region/location

I enjoy the painting side and my mate enjoys the construction - which I think he does, exceptionally. But my real passion is BR (SR) in the blue/grey era. His mum's parents lived in Fairlands, near Guildford and an aunt and uncle lived in Woking. So childhood holidays always involved trips on BIGs and CIGs, REPs and TC's, Tadpoles, Vep's and 33's on West of Englands, the Waterloo and city stock and of course VECs and TISs on the Isle of Wight. So it is our aim to build a layout in the Surrey/Hampshire border somewhere in the Guidlford/Aldershot/Woking triangle.

The fictitious history is that the LSWR build a direct line to Farnham off the Portsmouth Direct at Worplesdon, which became a junction station and was renamed Mayford (which it is actually closer to than Worplesdon) the line passed through Worplesdon Village and skirted around the site of the the 1930's Fairlands development before arriving in Shelvington (the layout is going to sit on a shelf in the hobby room!). The line continued on with a station at Normandy, and then under the Guildford -Reading line near Ash. The fictitious line then joined the actual route of the Guildford - Farnham via Tongham line with stations at Ash Green and Tongham, joining the Aldershot -Farnham line at Farnham Junction. Shelvington became an important junction station with the arrival of a secondary line from Guildford. Tired of wranglings with the SECR for joint running over the Reading -Rehill line (actually the LSWR built the Guildford-Ash bit - but that doesnt work for my story!) the LSWR built a line which left the Portsmouth direct North of Guildford at the fictitious location of Wooden Bridge Junction (where the A3 passes under the Portsmouth Direct). This line curved around the north west districts of Guildford, passing under the Aldershot Road at Rydes Hill, where the Southern provided a precast conrete halt in the 1930's (inspiration is Three Oaks on the Ashford-Hastings line), before joinging the Worplesdon -Farnham line at a four platform 'V' station at Shelvington. This line continued on to join the LSWR mainline East of Farnborough Main, with a loop back to Ash Vale. Only the line from Mayford Junction to Farnham was electrified by the Southern at the time of the Alton electrification. The attached map gives an idea of my work of fiction!.

Dear Mr Beeching saw no value in the the lines continuing west beyond Shelvington, but the Lines east to Woking and Guildford were profitable. Shelvington station was rationalised to just the central platforms forming the 'v', most of the buildings were demolished and a clasp building in the height of 1960's modernism erected (see Wool). Signalling is largely still mechanical (signal box similarly based on Wool), although colour lights have arrived for the platforms which didn't have a signal at the east end. In the early 70's one of the other platforms was rebuilt for the stub half hourly DEMU service to Guildford with every other train going on to Redhill and Tonbridge, two DEMU stabling roads and a refuelling point are also now provided.

So having set the scene, progress to date is.

4 of 7 baseboards built.
CLASP station building complete
Signal Box about 80% done.
Substation complete
Track 2 of 7 points built (P4)
Tadpole Class 206 built, Class 205 in the paintshop (now BR blue with superdetailed roof).

there will be lots to identify it as a modernish (it is set nearly 30 years ago!!!) image Southern layout, with Alder Valley buses, concrete buildings, warm red brick and tile hung buildings.

And of course the Farnham line nearby was a regular host to test trains, so expect to see a W&C single car, 4 Vec and possibly a 2PEP (aluminum one is enticing)

So watch this space for pics of the trains, buildings and progress.

Shelvington map.jpg

Shelvington concept plan.jpg
 

Ressaldar

Western Thunderer
Hi Celticwardog,

could you also include with your progress photos, a track diagram please. Know the area very well, lived in Farnham for forty years before moving up to Wirral ten years ago.

cheers

Mike
 
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Celticwardog

Guest
Hi Mike

I am trying to but I keep getting error messages when uploading photos, is there a size limit? Strange coinciedence you moved up there, the original layout now on hiatus due to erm...epicness.....was Liverpool Exchange just before it closed. many things were built for it but as I say....hiatus.
 

Jordan

Mid-Western Thunderer
The 'Theme' of this Forum these days is pretty much "If it has flanged wheels it's in..." :)

...although we're not averse to machines with wings, either. ;)
 

Heather Kay

Western Thunderer
Hi Mike

I am trying to but I keep getting error messages when uploading photos, is there a size limit? Strange coinciedence you moved up there, the original layout now on hiatus due to erm...epicness.....was Liverpool Exchange just before it closed. many things were built for it but as I say....hiatus.

There is a limit of just under 10mb per image. We usually find it best to rescale images to make upload easier. I usually work to around 1500px wide/high.
 
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Celticwardog

Guest
Ok, photo issue was my pooter....it's on a go slow.

I shall do what i normally do and post prototypes, then the 4mm version:

High Rocks

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Wool Signal Box

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Wool Station (oh the horror of CLASP!)

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Southern Region Concrete Substation

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