7mm Pencarrow - Cornish BR(S)

Discussion in 'Layout Progress' started by Pencarrow, 1 March 2016.

  1. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Making a start on the second roof. The ridgeline is deliberately not straight as the weight of the roof has pushed the side wall out towards the yard and the joist timber over the doorway has been deflected down.

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    Going to be a bit tricky cutting all the triangular shapes as no two will be the same.
     
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  2. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    Otherwise it would be too easy....:p
     
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  3. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    The other tricky bit is working out how much the roof ridge line needs to sag. Given up on that for now, not been feeling great this weekend (hence no DIY and slow progress on the layout) and will wait until the brain is a bit more with it.

    Still, I'm pleased with finally working out what to do with the troublesome corner. Would have been easy if the layout were three times as long and twice as wide - I could then have copied the prototype. The compression and compromises worked in most places but I just couldn't get anything remotely based on the prototype to work in the space I had.

    This manifested itself in that corner of the layout being covered in many, many layers of scribble. The breakthrough came in admitting defeat and going a bit freelance. I've always liked the wharf buildings and am really glad they will make an appearance on Pencarrow.
     
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  4. Threadmark: Bodmin wharf prototype photos
    Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    A reminder of the prototype - demolished over 120 years ago...

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    So full of character...
     
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  5. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    There's a interesting wealth of detail in those photos especially to anyone who is modelling that period.

    Top photo: the horse bus, the 3 plank wagon on the right with it's home-made ladder and the patress plates on the right hand building.

    Middle photo: The subsidence on the right hand building and the self guarding frog on the point next to the building. I suspect this is the later of the three photos due to the points being present.

    Bottom photo: Nice interior view of the 3 plank dropside: the home-made ladder propped up against the lamp post; the self contained buffers on the two ballast wagons on the left and the L&SWR 3 plank wagon lettered for the Bodmin and Wadebridge.

    And of course the obvious details such as the guttering styles, gas lamps, worn stones on the doorways, leaning lamp post, etc, etc. The more you look at the photos the more you see. It would appear the buildings were in a sorry state at the time the photos were taken.
     
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  6. adrian

    adrian Flying Squad

    Agreed - fascinating photos. I just can't quite work out the lettering on the side horse-bus - "Industry"? I presume the lamp on the side of the building is a gas lamp and has a pipe over the alleyway to the building on the right. I love the full leaded windows on both bay windows.

    I'm still puzzled by the recess in the middle and righthand building roof eaves. Above the bay windows in the stonework there is a recess and a lintel above it. Would this have been a result of the window tax? The roof area seems rather cramped so I can only imagine it would be storage so would it have warranted a window in the first place?
     
  7. Paul Cambridge

    Paul Cambridge Western Thunderer

    Middle photo: The bearded gentleman in the light coat standing if front of the wagon on the RHS is Sam Worth, a notable B&W worthy! I think you should model him! (Twernt like it in dem olden days, m’luvver. Blessed GW pannier tank things... Now Mr Beattie’s well tanks, hansum they was!)
     
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  8. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    It does read Industry. I've also noticed what appears to be wheels chocks and poles lying around in the top photo - obviously to brake the wagon to prevent runaways. And also what appears to be a poster advertising London.

    They may have been workshops which fell out of use.
     
  9. adrian

    adrian Flying Squad

    Cheers
    Why would it be marked up in that way? Did they have to differentiate it from a "public service vehicle"?

    Elvish or Dwarf? There doesn't seem a lot of room in the eaves or would it just be for illumination onto the floor below?
     
  10. adrian

    adrian Flying Squad

    an interesting detail - what do you reckon the wagon is loaded with? It seems very haphazard.
     
  11. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    I would not like to be stuck by the buildings buildings they look mighty close.

    Don't forget get passengers went from here before rebuilding.
    Possibly there was a hoist above each bay window, they look like an addition to me.
     
  12. adrian

    adrian Flying Squad

    That was one of my thoughts but above a bay window? If there was a hoist I'm not sure they would have put in a bay window below it and from what I remember of these arrangements there would have been another detail above the lintel which would have been the steel beam for the hoist.
     
  13. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Not a great night last night, decidedly off-colour today.

    Some interesting observations above, they are fascinating photos of a bygone era.

    I think Industry is the name of the horse bus. It's the mid 1800s and objects got forthright names such as that and Fortitude and Perseverance etc.

    The recesses in the gable ends. Rightly or wrongly I decided they were simply just recessed sections of stonework to add a bit of relief. With the bays below, limited height of the opening and limited space above for a hoist I don't think they are openings. I'm going to model one of them with a building date block as a personal touch.

    Have you looked at the state of the guttering? Sections falling away all over the place.

    Any thoughts on the size of the slates? Interesting that they seem to be conventional compared to the very rough and variable size/thickness ones on the grain store.
     
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  14. JimG

    JimG Western Thunderer

    From an interest in slates in Scotland, the quality was down to how much you wanted to pay. I had a house which had been a Church of Scotland manse and the Kirk were notorious for being impecunious when it came to their buildings. So my house had coarse, thick slates of many sizes. However, across the road was a large Edwardian villa with beautifully cut Ballachulish slates all the same size and thickness. Unfortunately, this villa had to be demolished to make way for a bypass and I couldn't make use of the slates for repairs since they were too good for my roof. However I did get the 1 1/8" tongued and grooved floorboards. :):)

    Jim.
     
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    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

  16. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    I've just had a look in one of my LT books at the list of independent omnibus proprietors that were taken over by LTPB in 1933. This style of fleet naming was evident in the late 1800's and early 1900's with names such as Ambassador, Britannia, Criterion, Dispatch, Enterprise, Reliance and names similar to those you've noted above.
     
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  17. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    Last photo... Oh why do we buy and paint figures when Lego provide them for us.....;)
     
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  18. Paul Cambridge

    Paul Cambridge Western Thunderer

    Not wishing to criticise Chris, but I think you’re made the building to the wrong scale...... :headbang:
     
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  19. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    He's just abnormally tall...
     
  20. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    Slightly concerned that nobody has picked up that Grandpa Simpson is possibly a little out of period.