Prototype G1 Western

Discussion in 'G1/32' started by D1054, 30 September 2018.

  1. D1054

    D1054 Western Thunderer

    Hi All,

    Really sorry I haven't been around for quite a while, but I thought I'd just drop you some pictures in the hope of some constructive criticism on this Gauge 1 WESTERN I've embarked upon over the past couple of weeks.... There's a video of the sectional build before skinning at Gauge One Model Railways. IMG_4884JPG.jpg IMG_4886JPG.jpg IMG_4888JPG.jpg IMG_4889JPG.jpg IMG_4890JPG.jpg IMG_4884JPG.jpg IMG_4886JPG.jpg IMG_4888JPG.jpg IMG_4889JPG.jpg IMG_4890JPG.jpg
     
  2. David Halfpenny

    David Halfpenny Western Thunderer

    "Three wheels on your wagon . . ."

    Are you going to print the running wheels, or print patterns?
    Or are the white wheels just to help visualise?
     
  3. D1054

    D1054 Western Thunderer

    Hi, The prints on the table are to scale from D1013, but for the models they will be investment castings in steel to G1 standards.
     
  4. David Halfpenny

    David Halfpenny Western Thunderer

  5. Colonel Bogie

    Colonel Bogie Member

    Is this a prototype for an eventual kit? Or a one off - sorry if I've missed the thread.
     
  6. D1054

    D1054 Western Thunderer

    Hi, I'm hoping that this will come together as a kit on G1 and G3. I'm building three prototypes in each scale to refine the prints, and then will look at kit production options. A few more pictures of progress will follow later tonight.
     
  7. D1054

    D1054 Western Thunderer

    Evening All, Here's some progress pics of the Prototype G1 Wizzo. I've been working on the roof panels and windows to try to get the best printing matches, and whilst I'm OK with the outer roof panels, the centre ones are being replaced with thinner version which will run overnight tonight. The buffers are a little short on the stocks and undersize on the buffers, but the impression for this propotype isn't too bad. Comments welcomed, please.....
     

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  8. unklian

    unklian Western Thunderer

    The cab roof is too narrow and the cab side windows too tall as a consequence . The cab door is not tall enough either . When you try to add the rain gutter that goes over the doors you will see what I mean . Hope that helps, the big problem with the Western is that no drawing ( that I have found anyway ) really describes it properly. You just have to keep staring at the real thing .

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    I nicked this off google to illustrate my point I hope the original photographer doesn't mind !!
     
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  9. D1054

    D1054 Western Thunderer

    Excellent..... thank-you. Just the sort of feedback I'm after.
     
  10. unklian

    unklian Western Thunderer

    You're a brave man no doubt, the Western is a very subtly shaped machine indeed. I did one in 3mm scale and it was a right fiddle . Another bit you need to watch is the cant rail 'corner', where it meets the cab side windows is critical. On the plus side , he said chucking the bouquet after the brickbats, you have a lot of it looking very well indeed. Don't tempt me with a Gauge 3 one, I want a D6300 first !
     
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  11. D1054

    D1054 Western Thunderer

    Plenty of time for you to knock out a little D63XX before the G3 is available! Talk again this time next year!
     
  12. D1054

    D1054 Western Thunderer

    Gauge 1 - Bogie Profile.png
    Bogie work now underway..... :)
     
  13. simon br blue

    simon br blue Member

    Very nice, how will you power it?
     
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  14. D1054

    D1054 Western Thunderer

    Hi Simon. The first prototype will be built for static display, but I'm making the bogies interchangeable so that driven bogies can be added later if wanted. I'd like to use a central motor on UV jointed splines to gearboxes on the rear axles of each bogie, then either chain or worm-gear drives through to the outer wheels (centre wheelsets will float). The first powered ones will probably be MSC motor gearboxes though.... unless anyone has any better suggestions?
     
  15. David Halfpenny

    David Halfpenny Western Thunderer

    Finescale Brass were selling a few high-efficiency motor-gearbox units at Woking for £80 piece.
    Type 385 5-pole motor, small flywheel, helical first reduction stage plus two straight-geared reduction stages, choice of FSB or 3/16" (Slaters) axle diameter. These don't 'lock' like a worm.
     
  16. D1054

    D1054 Western Thunderer

    Thanks for that David... I'll look into those.