7mm Rob P's Coaching Stock Workbench - Kirk Twin Set Diag 105/125
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Rob Pulham
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Hi Geoff,
Yes to the lights - I have a couple of desk mounted fluorescents but I haven't used a magnifier yet on these (I do wear glasses though). I do have a head mounted magnifier but I only use it when I am really struggling and it's at home on Wakefield whereas most of the work on the BG was done in Bishop Auckland. - I don't have soldering kit up there so I do my plastic kit work up there and metal works at home.
Thanks Iain.
Rob Pulham
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This weekend saw the bogies completed and primed. I had initially struggled to work out how to get the ABS Cavalier bogies together and an email to Adrian had him suggesting the addition of bit's of welding rod to strengthen them. Having discussed the matter with Don we agreed that if I couldn't get them together then I would use the Kirk bogies supplied instead.
Lo and behold when I looked again at them yesterday morning it all became clear and they were assembled in no time. There was minimal flash and I just had to file the ends of the bogie sides where they fit into the ends ever so slightly to remove a gap.
On the Newbould bogies shown mostly complete earlier I adjusted the springs that I had wrong to sit under the spring stops, then added the bolsters and the brakes. Both sets had a good wash and then a squirt with primer.
I will leave this until next week to harden completely before putting on the top coat of black.
Newbould 8' on the left, ABS/Cavalier 8'6" on the right.
Newbould 8'
ABS/Cavalier 8'6" - and of course I see from the photos that I need to add some handles to the axle box fronts...
Lo and behold when I looked again at them yesterday morning it all became clear and they were assembled in no time. There was minimal flash and I just had to file the ends of the bogie sides where they fit into the ends ever so slightly to remove a gap.
On the Newbould bogies shown mostly complete earlier I adjusted the springs that I had wrong to sit under the spring stops, then added the bolsters and the brakes. Both sets had a good wash and then a squirt with primer.
I will leave this until next week to harden completely before putting on the top coat of black.
Newbould 8' on the left, ABS/Cavalier 8'6" on the right.
Newbould 8'
ABS/Cavalier 8'6" - and of course I see from the photos that I need to add some handles to the axle box fronts...
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Don's coaches came on quite a bit over the weekend, to the degree that that BG is down to working from a check list of final details. - I will need to replace the lamp irons with something made of brass because the styrene ones are really vulnerable. Out of the 4 fitted one has come off completely and two more are bent and will snap off soon.
The all 3rd has it's roof cut to length and the floor in. Because the insides are effectively flat sided I have decided to add a false floor with the interior partitions and seats mounted upon it. I will then insert this from the top before fastening the roof on.
Here's where we are so far. Although it's not visible in the photo the roof has it's canvas covering on too.
The all 3rd has it's roof cut to length and the floor in. Because the insides are effectively flat sided I have decided to add a false floor with the interior partitions and seats mounted upon it. I will then insert this from the top before fastening the roof on.
Here's where we are so far. Although it's not visible in the photo the roof has it's canvas covering on too.
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Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
I got a little more done on the All 3rd this weekend. - Sole bars, footsteps, battery boxes and queen posts all got fitted. I also did a bit more work on fitting the roof of the BG but there's nothing really to see. I also got the mounting brackets fitted on the dynamo but I forgot to bring it home for photos (not that it looks any different to the one that I did for the BG to be fair).
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
This last weekend saw a little more progress on the Kirk coaches.
The seating is assembled for the all third and the roof made ready to fit.
Conversations on a few forums around how to attach the roof, have had the side effect of making me think about fitting passengers (which neither Don or I had considered/discussed). Due to me having already glued the floor in ( I won't do that on future builds) I was exploring unobtrusive ways that I might make the room removable.
Having consulted Don who agreed that we should make provision for the fitting of passengers. - Albeit not that many due to the decline of passengers using the line in Don's modelled period. I was still mulling over various ways of fixing the roof when I realised that the roof ends don't quite match the profile of the ends of the coach. This is due to the way that Ian makes them by vacuum forming. When I say don't quite fit I am sure that the discrepancy will be taken up by gluing the roofs on as originally planned. But if I attempted to screw them on in any way, I would be left with an unsightly gap at either end.
A bit more head scratching and looking at the way that windows fit I decided that I could make it so that the windows cannot be dislodged by handling (which was another fear of gluing the roof on) and that if I fitted some passengers before gluing the roof down, it would mean that Don didn't need to gain access to do it later.
I had some Slaters seated passengers to hand and they provided a welcome distraction and rekindling of interest,which I have to confess due to pressures at work was waning a little.
While the painting of said passengers (particularly the faces) isn't as good as some on here, I am pleased with how they have come out and they will certainly pass muster inside the gloomy interior of the coach once matt varnished.
If you wonder why they are sat above the box instead of on it, that's because I have inserted a length of plastic rod to enable me to old them while painting and and it will help in making them securely fastened to the seats when fitted.
The seating is assembled for the all third and the roof made ready to fit.
Conversations on a few forums around how to attach the roof, have had the side effect of making me think about fitting passengers (which neither Don or I had considered/discussed). Due to me having already glued the floor in ( I won't do that on future builds) I was exploring unobtrusive ways that I might make the room removable.
Having consulted Don who agreed that we should make provision for the fitting of passengers. - Albeit not that many due to the decline of passengers using the line in Don's modelled period. I was still mulling over various ways of fixing the roof when I realised that the roof ends don't quite match the profile of the ends of the coach. This is due to the way that Ian makes them by vacuum forming. When I say don't quite fit I am sure that the discrepancy will be taken up by gluing the roofs on as originally planned. But if I attempted to screw them on in any way, I would be left with an unsightly gap at either end.
A bit more head scratching and looking at the way that windows fit I decided that I could make it so that the windows cannot be dislodged by handling (which was another fear of gluing the roof on) and that if I fitted some passengers before gluing the roof down, it would mean that Don didn't need to gain access to do it later.
I had some Slaters seated passengers to hand and they provided a welcome distraction and rekindling of interest,which I have to confess due to pressures at work was waning a little.
While the painting of said passengers (particularly the faces) isn't as good as some on here, I am pleased with how they have come out and they will certainly pass muster inside the gloomy interior of the coach once matt varnished.
If you wonder why they are sat above the box instead of on it, that's because I have inserted a length of plastic rod to enable me to old them while painting and and it will help in making them securely fastened to the seats when fitted.
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
I'd give them a thin brown wash to accentuate the creases and shadows before varnishing.
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Thanks Dave,
I had painted them dark grey as an undercoat but it seems to have covered rather better than I anticipated.
I had painted them dark grey as an undercoat but it seems to have covered rather better than I anticipated.
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
In between building bit's on the B16 I have also been slowly but surely painting the BG
I still need to glaze it and fit the guards handrails etc. but it getting there.
I still need to glaze it and fit the guards handrails etc. but it getting there.
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Still ticking along with these, the seats are now at the right height. Next job a coat of paint and fitting the passengers.
john lewsey
Western Thunderer
Very nice Rob
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
The 52' BG is now complete and just needs the roof fastening down.
I will have it with me on the Saturday at Telford should anyone like to see it in the flesh.
I will have it with me on the Saturday at Telford should anyone like to see it in the flesh.
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
I like the roof. Looks like the canvas has seen better days as the vehicle is nearing the end of it's working life 
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Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Thanks Dave, that was the plan.
The all 3rd has been progressing too, we now have passengers and a start on the paint work - the plan is to print our some partition tops with carriage prints and possible the mirrors in place - I may end up with plan B for the mirrors which would be to use the Cameo to cut them from foil.
The all 3rd has been progressing too, we now have passengers and a start on the paint work - the plan is to print our some partition tops with carriage prints and possible the mirrors in place - I may end up with plan B for the mirrors which would be to use the Cameo to cut them from foil.
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
They do, we have been having a discussion on the GOG forum about the fact that Slaters 'Huminiatures' are underscale BAH!!! I am sure that once lost in the gloom of the coach it won't be that noticeable and they are well and truly stuck to the seats now so they are staying put.
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Picking up after Guildex and despite going out to play at Locomotion on both Saturday PM and sunday AM I managed to get a fair bit further on the All 3rd
Brake tell tale and associated bits and pieces
Roof vents marked out and added, I also added the V Hangers underneath but found that I had left the dynamo and the vac cylinder castings behind so I couldn't go any further with them.
I even made a jig and a start on the grab handles before running out of rod - more in Wakefield but it's not much good there
Brake tell tale and associated bits and pieces
Roof vents marked out and added, I also added the V Hangers underneath but found that I had left the dynamo and the vac cylinder castings behind so I couldn't go any further with them.
I even made a jig and a start on the grab handles before running out of rod - more in Wakefield but it's not much good there
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
A weekend in, spent modelling has seen the All 3rd well on it's way to completion. I even managed to do a bit more on my own non corridor parcels van. Progress on the latter included ripping off the dynamo to make up more prototypical hanging frame similar to Don's BG and All 3rd
All that's left to do (unless I find something else is fit the turnbuckles and trussing and the vacuum and steam heat pipes before it hit's the paint shop in anger
All that's left to do (unless I find something else is fit the turnbuckles and trussing and the vacuum and steam heat pipes before it hit's the paint shop in anger