7mm Rolling Stock for Okehampton

[Ian G]

As I will be building different era stock for our clubs layout 1948 - 70's and mainly freight/engineers stock. on top of my G6 & Siphon many different items of rolling stock will be built from kits or scratch built.
First off is a Parkside pipe wagon, this is for the wagon challenge at the club compitition, the intention is to have bare wood effect inside, but I have never painted my wooden wagons like this, and would like some pointers on how too and what paints.

Ian G

 

[dibateg]

I'd refer you to the 'bible' Ian - Martyn Wech's book on the art of weathering, does discuss wooden wagons. The other thing to do is browse any colour books that you have for shots that include the insides of wagons ( good excuse for some research ) and see if you can match the colours. Earth and greys come in to it a lot, but it does seem tricky to get right.
You probably know this anyway, and I'm sure I've seen this discussed in something else, let me see if I can recall....

Regards

Tony

 

[Steve Cook]

I tend to start with a base coat of beige Ian, then add greys, browns and whites in various amounts to that base colour and drybrushing the result over the base coat multiple times. I often add a wash of dirty brown halfway through to provide a unifying tone, then go back to the drybrushing, finishing off with some powders / ground pastels. I suspect if you ask 10 people how they do it, you pretty much get 10 different answers. I know that doesn't help much, but we all have a different feel and technique, as well as different paints so there is no one answer - the best you can hope for is an example of peoples work and a brief description of the order in which they did it.

To that end, here are a couple of my wagon insides





Gauge 1 and Gauge 3 respectively but I don't consider that the need to change colour will vary much between scales.

HTH
Steve

 

[Dog Star]

Very nice Steve and not often that anyone includes / paints the steel plates which cover the holes for knocking out the drawgear pins (you did paint the slot in the screw heads didn't you... ).

 

[Steve Cook]

Very nice Steve and not often that anyone includes / paints the steel plates which cover the holes for knocking out the drawgear pins (you did paint the slot in the screw heads didn't you... ).

Oh yeah, of course
Its is one of Slaters 1/32 kits and was the first Gauge 1 kit I built. It was part of the first batch so I had to add the capping, I believe that was sorted out along with some capping retaining fixtures for Batch 2. All of the other detail came as standard. Unfortunately, it still suffered from the usual kit problem of having brake shoes that had fallen out with the wheels, lengthening the brake push rods was a bit of a bind. I still have a second one as a shelf queen somewhere...
Steve

 

[Ian G]

Which paints are better to use acrylics or enamals & Who's?

Ian G

 

[Heather Kay]

Which paints are better to use acrylics or enamals & Who's?

Which one do you have most experience with?

I prefer enamels, but then I grew up with Airfix and Humbrol paints. I have dabbled with acrylics, but there's a knack I have yet to acquire.

 

[Simon]

Ian

Good advice above I think, the best thing to do is throw a bit of paint about and see what looks right to you. I'm still mostly in the enamel camp myself, but think those new fangled acrylics that the young people use are probably worth investigating

One tip though, whatever paint or methods you choose I'd prime the whole wagon with Halfords Grey Primer first. It goes on really well and is a good start for a "lighter" interior, and makes painting (everything) afterwards much easier.

That said I'm sure the same would be true of any decent coat of primer.

Give it a go, and don't be afraid to post the results up here, I think weathering is something most of us put off for one reason or another.

Simon

 

[Heather Kay]

Give it a go, and don't be afraid to post the results up here, I think weathering is something most of us put off for one reason or another.

The best advice for weathering is to find some good photos and try to replicate the finish. Paul Bartlett's colour photos are excellent for this - especially with various shots of the same type of wagon where you can begin to pick out common patterns in the weathering and so on. Oh, and don't overdo it at first. It's better to do too little and add to it than to overdo it and have to try and rein it back in.

There's an art to weathering, but there's no one recipe to follow. I've found techniques that work for me, but they might not work for anyone else. Just have a go and show us how you get on.

 

[Ian G]

Wagon finished had a few days sick this week due to having some teeth out, promed it tonight now drying.

Ian G

 

[garethevans1986]

Looking forward to seeing this primed and painted!

Gareth

 

[Ian G]

The intention is to have this wagon and a MR 5 plank wagon painted in their base colours by Wednesday next week as I will not be able to use an air brush for a few weeks due to moving house, I have a wood weathering paint set that i picked up some months ago, one will be with this the other with enamel paints.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

Now in primer intend on painting the sides tonight.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

Now a dusting of freight brown, will leave it for the weekend.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

I finished and primed a MR 5 plank tonight, this is to be used as my test bed for wood efect painting, with the intention of flacking paint and bare wood inside and out. Weathered black for underframes on both wagons tomorrow.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

Both wagons ready for wood affect painting, I will start this next month.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

I had some spare time tonight so I have added the base for the wood effect, a Lifecolor set weathered wood CS 20, I also have the dust and rust set CS10 that will be used, these are acrylic paints, and the first time I have sprayed with them, big learning curve.

Ian G



All over spray with the MR 5 Plank as this will be my practice wagon, with a mixture bare wood with some areas of flaky paint.



Some paint blead through the mask but this will be hidden in time and blended in.

 

[Ian G]

Now set up in my little work area an old bureau I am using and big enough for my needs, no photos yet as no broadband till the 17th.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

Now have broadband at home, the story so far, basic wood efect on both wagons.

A little bit further progressed with the pipe, metalwork inside has been painted the same as the outside, transfers next for this wagon.

The MR 5 plank I have put maskol on a few planks, but this wagon will be a few different colours of grey and bare planks on the outside.







The work area big enough to build locos/coaches, the shelving is being rebuilt with shelves in the horizontal position and built round my needs.

Ian G

 

[Ian G]

1st shades of darkish/LMS grey going on, will leave over night and add a bit more maskol then on with the light grey.

Ian G