Scale7 JB Workbench.

Discussion in 'Area 51' started by Scale7JB, 15 April 2010.

  1. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    Rather than use the Midland one and invite the uninformed rucksacked anoraked purists comments :eek: ..... why just not make a temporary blanking plate as if the corridor connection had been removed....

    LNER & BR E Coaching stock

    on the other hand just laugh and quote rule 1 :thumbs:.
     
  2. Steph Dale

    Steph Dale Western Thunderer

    Or...

    Make a conversion plate. Such things existed to couple BS gangways to Pullman - most pre-grouping Southern coaching sets were fitted with them when Pullman gangways were adopted as the standard. I'll see if I can find a photo.

    Steph
     
  3. Steph Dale

    Steph Dale Western Thunderer

    Here's a couple. Although not massively clear (they would have been taken in the carriage shed at Ingrow, and not by me!) they do show how the adaptor plate has the internal shape of the BS gangway and the external shape of the Pullman. The only way to couple Pullman and BS gangways was through use of these plates which were a pretty-much-permanent addition to the BS gangway.
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    The vehicle, by the way, is an Southern Railway 'Continental' and yes, at this stage in its preservation career it didn't have the correct gangways. I believe it has now.

    Here's a shot of a different style, where just the important parts are welded on to the original structure:

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    Photo sources unknown, reproduced here for educational purposes.

    Steph
     
  4. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    Thanks Steph, think an adaptor plate would be the best option, but it'll still need to be after the show sadly.

    I still have 2 loco chassis to spray, a tourist twin to fit seating to, 5 coaches to fit glazing, 30 odd wagons to weather, the clerestory roof to battle with etc etc..

    No going back now..

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    JB.
     
  5. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    Sorry forgot to reply to Dave, I do like the idea of the end plate, but would detract from the aesthetics of the carriage I think.

    JB.
     
  6. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    Well after all that yesterday, and spending time making up the corridor connectors, I shall need to use @Yorkshire Dave 's idea anyway.

    Think there might be a little problem here..

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    JB.
     
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  7. Steph Dale

    Steph Dale Western Thunderer

    Ohhhh noooo :eek:

    Is it just one of those 'more haste less speed' things, or should that kit have had longer buffers (and/or packing pieces) supplied?
    The gangway looks waaaaay over length too, perhaps to allow for train set curves and or buffers/couplings which don't work properly.

    When you get back to this it might be worth finding out what gangways you actually need. If it is the BS style (with/without adaptor) might I suggest the CPL ones?

    Steph
     
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  8. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Western Thunderer

    I was going to suggest the same....
     
  9. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    Given it's East Coast Joint Stock I'd expect it to have Pullman gangways as per the photo. Any through working LNER stock may have had BS/Pullman adapter plates.
     
  10. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    After a very long break, I think it's finally done!

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    JB.
     
  11. richard carr

    richard carr Western Thunderer

    JB

    Are you sure everything is tabbed ?

    Sorry but after taking almost 2 hours to get home yesterday I forgot to check the number.

    Richard
     
  12. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    No problem Richard, not all tabbing done yet, but all the components have been drawn, and of course still have the fill hatching to do..

    JB.
     
  13. richard carr

    richard carr Western Thunderer

    OK still quite a bit to do then
     
  14. eastsidepilot

    eastsidepilot Western Thunderer

    Tender ? JB :D

    Col.
     
  15. mickoo

    mickoo Western Thunderer

    No option for rigid or compensation beam suspension......shame on you :D

    Looks very good anyway, nice and compact, I do so hate waste etch :cool:
     
  16. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    Thanks Mick,

    Much like dinghams and smoke units, they're sometimes necessary evils, but I can't stand them, except where compensation is used on the full size versions.

    Tin hat in place ready for the assault..

    Col, no tender at the moment. I shall see what's already available. No point re-inventing the wheel if there is something good enough out there already. If not I'll do that next. I wonder if Big Jim might have a suitable tender?

    JB.

    Edit: apologies for the bluntness, just been stuck in the lift with Freddie, as the builders in the flat next door left rubble everywhere and seems to have got caught in the tracks preventing the doors from opening.. I'm seething.
     
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  17. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    I don't think anyone can possibly understand quite how much I hate Turbocad at the moment..

    :headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::rant::rant::rant::rant::rant::rant::rant:

    JB.
     
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  18. Steph Dale

    Steph Dale Western Thunderer

    I guess you're doing the shape fills at the moment.

    Head down, crack on... :D

    Steph
     
  19. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    40 mins for one single smokebox number plate half etched bolt!! And it's still not done!

    JB.
     
  20. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    And then of course TurboCad crashed losing the previous hours work!!!

    There must be a better way... 5 hours with very little to show for it!

    JB.