Supplier for 7mm 1920's Pullman Coaches - preferably kits

Rob Pulham

Western Thunderer
For a future project I need a minimum of three 1920's Pullman coaches and I was wondering if anyone could give me a pointer as to kit suppliers? So far I have drawn a blank on the kit front.

Thanks in advance.
 

daifly

Western Thunderer
For a future project I need a minimum of three 1920's Pullman coaches and I was wondering if anyone could give me a pointer as to kit suppliers? So far I have drawn a blank on the kit front.

Thanks in advance.
Steph is correct. Westdales 'current' list (obtained Oct 12 but dated Mar 12) lists 'K' types of:
3rd Parlour brake
3rd Parlour
3rd Parlour kitchen
1st Parlour
1st Parlour kitchen
All above are 8w vehicles at £101 ea. + p&p
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
That is twenty axles of Slater's best then Rob, more than required for the three carriages in the original post because you will not be able to choose which and hence will end up with one of each kit ;) .

regards, Graham
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
That is twenty axles of Slater's best then Rob, more than required for the three carriages in the original post because you will not be able to choose which and hence will end up with one of each kit ;) .

regards, Graham

Graham,

He'd need two brake coaches surely - it'd then make a convincing rake for something like the Harrogate Sunday Pulham Pullman... :p

Steph
 

lancer1027

Western Thunderer
Hi Rob.

In the past i have built 6 of these Westdale Pullman coach kits. They are very good but will cost about £30 to fit each coach with tables and chairs. Dick Taylor (Westdale) does supply these in resin but they are not in the kit.
Also you need to aquire bogies for these kits too.

Hope this helps.:thumbs:

Rob:)
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
He'd need two brake coaches surely - it'd then make a convincing rake for something like the Harrogate Sunday Pulham Pullman... :p
Steph, I think that you mis-spelled the name of the service - surely "Rhubarb Pullham" which was a Sunday Only service from KX platform 9.75 to the Rhubarb Triangle in the County of Yorkestchire.

regards, Graham
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
Close Dave - the brakes are 'K' cars - the others are Met-Camm 'Mk1 Pullman' vehicles...

Which raises an interesting question; I wonder whether K car saloons and kitchen cars were ever used on the Harrogate Sunday Pullman? I may well have been wrong about that in my initial post.

I suspect this is all a bit of a diversion for Rob though, as I don't think he models the BR era!

Steph
 

Rob Pulham

Western Thunderer
Steph is correct. Westdales 'current' list (obtained Oct 12 but dated Mar 12) lists 'K' types of:
3rd Parlour brake
3rd Parlour
3rd Parlour kitchen
1st Parlour
1st Parlour kitchen
All above are 8w vehicles at £101 ea. + p&p

Thanks Dave/Steph that's brilliant

Hi Rob.

In the past i have built 6 of these Westdale Pullman coach kits. They are very good but will cost about £30 to fit each coach with tables and chairs. Dick Taylor (Westdale) does supply these in resin but they are not in the kit.
Also you need to aquire bogies for these kits too.

Hope this helps.:thumbs:

Rob:)

Thanks Rob -nice to know what you need to finish the job:thumbs:
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Similar Dave - This is what I wish to recreate It's the subject of Chris's latest painting.
In which case I think Westdales might not do, I'm guessing here (at work so no reference material) but I think the majority of K types are steel bodied and the ones in your image are wooden vertical washboard coaches and certainly the first two appear to be on 3 axle bogies. I'm sure I have some mag articles on Yorkshire pullmans over the years, think I might have some GAs or drawings for K stock too, will need to check out later. Didnt know Westdales did K stock, might be interested in some for an EE type 4 Master Cutler rake :)
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
Rob,
Mick's correct, the photo shows 12-wheelers. So not 'K's. I can't see any evidence of matchboarding as tbe image is too heavily compressed.
I think you would need to do a little more research to get it bang on, but the Westdale carriages on suitable (US-sourced?) bogies may be enough. I guess it depends upon your sensibilities!
Steph
 

Rob Pulham

Western Thunderer
Thanks Mick, it may be a case of Westdales being the nearest that I can get - I have another photoof the same scene/loco but a few years later and I am not sure if the coaches are different I will have to look.
 

Rob Pulham

Western Thunderer
Thanks Steph, we must have cross posted - your suggestion may be the best option, especially if I have to source the bogies anyway.
 

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
Rob,
The vehicles in the photo are 12-wheelers, so definately not K cars. I can't see any matchboarding, but that may an artifact of over compression (I'm using a smartphone at the moment). However, K cars with some 6-wheel (US-sourced?) bogies may suit you very well.
If you find that the windows are the same as the K cars you may find out that Westdale can do you a special - it'd certainly be worth asking.
Oh and don't use Wayoh 6-wheel bogies, there's an error in the geometry of the brass inner and they're unstable; pretty much guaranteed to derail.
Steph
 

daifly

Western Thunderer
Am I looking at the same photo as everyone else? Having exlarged the photo as much as I can, I can only see 4 wheels and 4 axleboxes. That surely makes it an 8-wheeler?
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Steph, the match boarding is on the cream panels and can be seen as fine dark vertical lines. It's probably not pure match boarding as we often see in the US or earlier UK stock but it's a term I use to distinguish (possibly incorrectly) them from later all steel stock.

Daifly I'm sure those are heavy weight 6 wheelers the angled struts/springs straddle the middle axle, I'll dig through my mags and see if I can come up with more info....might be gone a while though LOL, just dredging my mind to see if I can remember which series of mags it actually is before wading through all of them!
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
Am I looking at the same photo as everyone else? Having exlarged the photo as much as I can, I can only see 4 wheels and 4 axleboxes. That surely makes it an 8-wheeler?
Here is a hint... the engine in the photo which is referenced by Rob in post no.#10 is a GNR Atlantic with a booster engine....
 
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