The train shed: Liverpool (Cheapside) G.W.R.

Discussion in 'WR Action' started by jonte, 16 April 2018.

  1. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    It’s been a while since I did any modelling and frankly the inertia left me cold-turkeying.

    Recently, I succumbed, and dug out ‘the shed’ that has been piquing my sporadic interest ever since I started it a couple or so years back. It will be modelled in its post Great War condition, so lot’s of grease ‘n’ grime to smear on that would no doubt have caused Brunel and the directors of this once proud railway company to spin in their graves.

    Some of you that may remember it - there won’t be many - will recall it’s a no-expense-spent affair formed of odds and ends and bits ‘n’ bobs, including lengths of old rail, grey board and chopped up greetings cards in the main. To be fair, I did recently purchase four - yes four- Dapol water tower kits to the astonishment of the Sales assistant at Hattons, that will join the previous water tower kit that I bought as a test for the project last year. These will be plundered for their beams, and more importantly, the cast iron posts that are intended to support the centre sections of the shed to stop it crashing onto the rails below. They are indeed remarkable likenesses for the original. I count my blessings.

    Over the past week or so, I have been braving the overpowering stench of white spirit while brushing on countless washes in an attempt to secure that smoke and steam worn paint look of the interiors of those old train sheds in their later years. I hope and trust you agree that I think I’m on the right lines; I don’t think I can take much more of it, compounded by the fact I still have little time for serious modelling, so to have to do it again would break my heart.

    Anyway I’ve attached a couple of photos to show you were I’m up to. The roof sections are just placed against the supports to show the general effect. The front/ rear interior/exterior sections and pillars have been primed and under coated. They will be painted and weathered next.

    I hope one or two will find it of interest.

    Best wishes,

    Jonte
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  2. Steph Dale

    Steph Dale Western Thunderer

    Jonte,
    How big is this thing? It looks impressive in the pictures, but I've no sense of what you're actually dealing with as there's no sense of scale. I'm suspecting that the usual 'photo with a coin in it' routine may just lead to us playing an extended version of 'spot the coin'...?

    Steph
     
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  3. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    Hi Steph, thank you for interest and kind compliment; also those members who’ve liked it. I’m touched.

    Apologies for the lack of a benchmark to scale it by. I’ll no doubt be in trouble with Lyndhurstman yet again for this obvious omission.

    It’s wider than it is longer at just 25” x 30”. Train sheds were comparatively shorter as you will know, Steph, in the early days of the railway so that’s my excuse. It’s wide due to the presence of a small turntable at the terminus end of the station as per many early stations, which not only turned the locos but allowed them to run round their stock along an adjacent release road.

    It will be a 4mm scale model, although the gauge is still under review.

    I’ve built ( but yet to wire up neatly and dress) the sector table to go beneath it which I’ve built to P4.

    The problem is, I don’t have sufficient time, resources or skill set at present to build the stock to complement it as I would like. Even if I successfully managed to solder one of those wonderful brass kits without ending up in the serious burns unit of Whiston Hospital, I doubt I’d get it to run properly. Thus far, I have one loco - a Bachman Pannier with Ultrascale conversion wheels, on top of which I was thinking of plonking an SE Finecast 1850 Saddle Tank loco. Not a lot to go on I’m sure you’ll agree.

    In reality, I will probably just opt for Peco and build it to OO gauge, although I’m not sure whether to set it in the depressive thirties or towards the end of steam period.

    The only certainty is the track plan, which was at the end of a small single lined branch, which handicapped small termini that in reality, should have been mainline termini serving cities.

    I’ll try and post a picture of the sector table for your info. Apologies to those who’ve seen it before.

    Kindest,

    Jonte

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  4. Steph Dale

    Steph Dale Western Thunderer

    Jonte,

    Thanks for the details; that's certainly an impressive thing! I look forward to seeing how it progresses. :thumbs:

    Steph
     
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  5. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    I’ve attached a couple of photos to show the roof covering laid on top of the shed prior to painting.

    The first is pretty obvious, apart from to show how the rooves will not meet at their apexes.

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    The earliest trainsheds seemed not to enjoy the luxuries of north lights or louvred vents, which must have made them pretty dark and acrid affairs. In Cheapsides case, the maintenance men were simply instructed to get up there and open it up to the elements at the least expense, which created a somewhat agricultural affair.

    The second shows the pattern of shadows and penetrating shafts of light created by these impromptu holes in the roof.

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    This was the effect I sought to enhance that feeling of dark, dank and careworn urban stations of the time. I hope it serves to show you what I mean.

    Additionally, I hope this remains once the station buildings and stanchions are in place. Time will tell.

    Jonte
     
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  6. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    Steph.

    I forgot to post this shot the other day which shows the roof as a whole.

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    It should help to give you a better idea of the size.

    Apologies for posting basically the same pictures.

    Jonte