7mm US model dabblings

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Tim,

Yes, Helper is or was, one of the few manned helper districts left, they're usually short steep runs where cutting on and off is economical, but Barstow to Needles is 150 miles and Needles to Winslow is 260 miles and there's not much between them. I was joking with a guy I met on Hill 582 who was from New York and we were talking about how vast it is out here. You know its big when you see a sigh on the freeway that says next service stop 90 miles away! I said in the UK we'd have four or five cities in that distance! You really learn real quick to think long distance for fuel and water when covering those sorts of miles.

I've not checked yet, but in square miles I think Arizona is bigger than all of the UK.

MD
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Mick, some epically impressive photography in there... very accomplished !

JB.
Thank you :cool:, some of the lighting is very difficult to work with, especially head on into the sun, you've not much choice in some locations where the line is in a gully running north/south, other than not taking the picture.

I'm not happy with the post processing from the lap top and they all need redoing on the big PC when I get home, but as I've only got two weeks before shipping out again overseas to China it looks like that will have to wait until September.

I might see if the hotel TV screen has a HDMI input or something then I can connect the laptop to it and process all my holiday pictures whilst I'm out there. Or better yet, just buy a desk top screen out there and bin it when I leave, they'll be cheap as chips.

Right now that it's cooling down it's time to venture out into the evening for some more photos, really busy today but ran out of locations which don't require an hour or more drive so I'll re visit some of the canyon ones at sunset and see what gives, probably no trains now lol.

MD
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Sadly the evenings venture resulted in nothing except my first injuries, I forgot to figure that canyons, especially those that traverse north/south, loose the light sooner than the motel on the high plains, so instead of a couple of hours I had 15 minutes, I could of moved on but whilst ascending to my lofty perch up what I thought was an easier route, a shale slope, turned out to be a mistake 4/5th of the way up when adhesion (lack of) defeated ambition. On the bright side the rental has a leather interior off which the blood could be easily washed :rolleyes:

Anyway, all cleaned up now so here's the photos from earlier in the day. I wanted to get back to the globally over worked location at the base of the canyon and add it to my bucket list and I can see why it's popular but probably not for the same reasons others do, it's certainly photogenic but you can work several shots and so that's what I did.

The first EB up the Canyon.
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And this is why I especially like this spot, it's close, very close and your at the same height as the exhaust stack so very very loud.
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In the background a WB stacker rolls down grade, common 'ball' 'squirrel' moment it has to be said when the Canyon is in full swing.

DPU's at full chat up close and personal.
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In the top right is Tom, one of three Swiss guys doing virtually the same as me, working Transcon 2 in Cali and Arizona, they did Tehachapi on Monday and saw only one train all day, gladly my tip off from the VR forums made sure I didn't fall into the same trap...not at Tehachapi but Cajon was also pretty much a wash out.

One other sound that I've come to appreciate is the whine from the roller bearings, once you tune in it never leaves you and is actually quite loud and a good indication of speed, as the head end passes it's medium pitch whine but as the grade steepens and more load gets dragged up the hill it drops to a low moan as the DPU's draw near.

A WB rolls by, this one a local to the steel processing plant a couple of miles south of here between the two tracks. I'm not actually sure which is the original single line here, probably the higher line as the grade seems more even, the WB (lower) really drops off a cliff when it leaves Kingman Depot.IMG_5120.jpg

Shortly after he passed the white high railer of death rolled by, basically that's all WB wiped off the agenda for a couple of hours, fortunately the EB's just kept on coming and coming :thumbs:
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I could keep working each outcrop with different angles.
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Finally, setting up for a lower power angle it all dried up and guess what, the white high railer of death came WB, I was polite and waved, surly goit just ignored me but that was it, no point even hanging around. So I popped back into town and did some tourist stuff around the old powerhouse museum and railroad park with the stuffed and mounted 4-8-4 which is near Transcon2.

Sure enough couple of hours later the traffic started to flow and I bagged this EB crawling out of the Canyon head and into Kingman Depot.
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In the foreground is the WB tracking dropping off the cliff. The two tracks are roughly side by side through the town centre and depot but split with the EB taking a big wide loop to the south to ease the overall grade and then kind of meet at another cut at the top end of town.

Coming up the cut a EB makes good speed up the grade.
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Shooting almost straight into the sun isn't helping but you've little choice here, as it passes the roller bearings are a low moan, behind me about 2/3rds of a mile away is the crest, by the time the DPU's pass the bearings are singing away quite happily. once the majority of the mass is over the crest speed picks up gratifying quickly.
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A short while later a WB rolls down the grade.
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I don't think this is the original alignment, it's certainly the original track but has been swung to the right to ease the curve, the original alignment is still easily seen from the bridge in the background and runs from the bridge in an almost straight line toward me; it now forms part of the BNSF access ROW.

A little further down and nearer town another WB eases through a rock cut.
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Back at the top of the hill, on the bridge seen in the background, a WB eases over the crest and begins the long descent through Kingman and the Canyon.
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My motel is near the end of the train about a mile and a bit more away and about the distance of the trees at far left away....can just hear another going by right now...with DPU's :thumbs:

Crossing over and looking downhill we have another 'ball' 'squirrel' moment.
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The original alignment can just be seen to the right of the DPU's, I've a better....non train scenery shot.....that shows it better.

Finally the WB from above gets here.
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The scar from the original WB alignment is easier seen on the far right.

Tomorrow it's the haul back to Flagstaff with a diversion up Route 66 to Hackberry, Valentine, maybe Crozier Canyon, Yampai summit and Seligman, but, I might for the first time set an alarm and head back to my first spot this morning for a dose of stack chat in the rock cut and some up close angles before breakfast.

MD
 
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Big Train James

Western Thunderer
Agree on the bearing whine. In my opinion, a very pleasant sound. Especially at speed, and in the absence of wheels with flat spots banging away all the time.

Jim
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Another bitty day, I paralleled Transcon2 for near 50 miles and not one train, so abandoned Hackberry and Valentine as no immediate access was visible and no point walking miles to sit and wait for nothing.

I did pass a EB Manifest just as it went into Crozier Canyon and as Yampai was just ahead, decided to grab it there.

Once at Yampai I was caught out by this WB just appearing as I rolled up so a quick grab shot.
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That cloud starts literally around the corner, quite amazing to have a line of shadow on one side of the summit, behind me pure clear skies.

The stacker is just about to crest the summit which is just behind that knoll on the left.
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As the mid train DPU's passed, the EB manifest crawled over the summit for a meet. Pretty rare odds to get head end passing DPU in the same shot.
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The lead twenty or so wagons were all military equipment coming back from the training and proving grounds near Barstow, sadly no weapons, just support vehicles. These trains have been going west all week, so I assume this is one of the first to be heading back home or the last from the previous units deployment.

As soon as these had cleared I could hear another WB coming up the hill, I wanted to go further east but the cloud just would not move quick enough, it was slowly going east but not quick enough to clear the area I wanted.

Lead units stand on the crest of Yampai summit, from here, westbound, it's nearly all down hill to Needles some 120 odd miles away.
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From the West a EB stacker comes up the hill.
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And another sunny side down.
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Eventually the sun cleared just enough for me to get the shot I wanted of the S curves to the east.
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Just took the shot two seconds to late as just to the left of the engine front you can see right down into the valley below. This was my second attempt here, the previous was full sun until about 30 seconds before the train appeared, yet the line just 300 yrds behind me was in brilliant sunshine. With more clouds looming it was time to move on to Pica.
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A WB comes through the old depot at Pica. A wider view shows the water towers still standing, just as it clouded over.
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Now in watery shadow almost all the time another WB comes up the hill.
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And the DPU pushes up through Pica and the water towers.
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That was it for the day, traffic dried up and cloud was 90/100% cover all the way to Flagstaff and looks to remain all night with possible rain and T storms.

Tomorrow looks a bit better, but if it's cloudy I'll head east across the plains to Winslow, where it should be sunny and that'll be my last full day out here.

MD
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Last full day out west and a mixed bag.

Waited out at East Flagstaff near the city limits for a EB to come up the grade, with a perfect sun angle the railroad failed to provide and it was near 90 mins before one turned up, couple of WB but shooting into the sun and only limited visibility made it worthless, the spot was picked solely for EB's.
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I'd already decided to head East to Winslow, despite being able to see some clouds in the distance. As I passed over Trancson2 the EB was still rolling by and not that fast so figured I could jump ahead at Cosnino, and so it was with just 10 seconds to spare.

Note the mountain at top left with the mast on, we'll cme to that later.
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Reasoning this was the only EB I'd seen for a while I decided to jump ahead again to Winona and get the bucket list shot, sure enough with a couple of minutes to spare he rolled by.
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Clear of the worst grades and curves he was beginning to wind it up by this stage and that was that, or so I thought. Back on the I40 for the 50 mile drive to Winslow I spotted him way way in the distance, I was doing 75 and wasn't catching him at a great rate of knots, twenty miles later I'd just about caught up, another twenty and I was a couple of miles ahead and decided to try and get one last shot from the bridge at Winslow. Broke a few speed limits and got there just in time.
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By this stage he'd slowed right down and came to a stand under the bridge, allowing me to take a more than large handful of detail shots of all the engines. The mountain with snow on in the Background is just North of Flagstaff and over 50 miles away, the low hump to the left is the one mentioned earlier with the masts on.

The delay was caused by trains changing crews ahead at Winslow, a real bottle neck.
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Once this passed my chase train proceeded into Winslow, to be followed closely by another and then another, this time a baby 'worm'
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Each one coming to a stand under the bridge to allow a WB to come through.
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By this time the cloud had thickened to near 90% coverage and at one point spat with rain, looking west I could see clear skies and with large bag of trains and shots here decided to head back to Cosnino.

First up was a EB, shooting into the sun and not a lot of choice.IMG_5755.jpg

Given the speed of the one I chased I didn't expect many WB's but most, all bar one I'd seen leave Winslow near three hours ago were back up on the hill. The first three all came past whilst a EB was also passing, sometimes you can have too many trains.

Another EB.
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Which blocked another WB leaving only a DPU shot available.
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Eventually the pattern was broken and all grinding up the hill behind a very slow and previous manifest they all crawled past me one at a time.
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After a gap of over an hour with no EB's and 30 mins of WB's it was time to head back, taking a slow drive back on the old route 66 I spotted the last train above at the city limits doing about 5 mph, it was touch and go with the city traffic and lights but with a few minutes to spare I bagged him again rolling through Flagstaff depot.
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Tomorrow is a half day, so if there's no cloud out east, I may well head back to Winslow and the bridge for more shots before heading to the airport in Phoenix in the afternoon, we'll see.

MD
 

allegheny1600

Western Thunderer
Ain't that the truth!

Unfortunately, after seeing 'real' trains like these monsters, British trains will seem so very insignificant. Length, weight, power, height and variety are all so much 'more' across the water. It's why I hardly bother train watching here.

Anyway!
Many, many thanks for all the pics, Mick - they're amazing and I love 'em!
 
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mickoo

Western Thunderer
Jordan, I'm afraid so and awfully quiet too.

In the context of Cajon or Cosnino cut the trains are massive and never ending, but in the context of the high plains along Goffs road and heading into Winslow, they're just a little string or colours in a very very big landscape.

Busy morning today, one of the better ones and rather than chase trains I just sat in one place and let them roll by, nothing artistic, no new angles just taking photos and enjoying the last day. Most trains were WB out of the sun which was a shame but the variety made up for it.

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The best was saved for last, a slow manifest crawling up the hill wrong road, 2nd and 3rd units were KCS Southern Belles, I'd seen them from a distance but never close and on the last day and the last train I got two, one US the other Mexico so double bonus, the fourth unit was breathing heavily and the RPM up and down as it tried to load up with grey smoke wafting from the engine bay, the fifth shut down from over temp I expect, certainly the heat from it as it passed me was filthy hot.
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It didn't take long to catch him, not that that was the intention as I was heading back to wash the rental and passed him on the way, I knew he was going slow and I didn't leave Cosnino right away, but by now he was on his hands and knees, toes and fingers dug in to haul it over the rise just East of Flagstaff, speed was down to around 1-2 mph.
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As the weight came over the hill he sped up and I paced the Dash 9 DPU, windows wide open as he pushed through the grades trying to gain momentum for the last big push up to the Arizona divide, when we parted he was doing just 25 mph having briefly got to 30 mph as we paced side by side for a couple of miles.

And as they say round here, that's all folks. I may get lucky and bag an odd CSX or two tomorrow, but for all intents and purposes, the GV is over as I type this in Phoenix airport waiting for the flight back East. I can see more and more spots in my photos so the camera, lenses and sensor need a really good clean, total photo count is just under 4500 and rental miles traveled near 2300.

MD
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Y'all welcome.

Not quite home yet chaps, just part way back to Orlando for a few days, finally back in Blighty Thursday.

MD
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Pass on my best regards to Mickey ******* Mouse:D
Tim
Before or after I slap his smug face lol.

Really early arrival and out in the rental quick sharp, 70 mile drive yo Mulberry and absolutely barebones, one spongebob hidden by poles and wagons......I'm so glad I never stayed in Florida, just so unreliable for trains.

Wifey is already planning the next one, they want to visit the west coast instead, sucks to be me ehh :cool:

MD
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
I'm slowly going back through all the photos here and adjusting the ones with poor colour cast and I've now also begun uploading larger ones to my Flickr site, some of which are not shown here. I've also had to remove all the US locomotive walkarounds I posted up, they now fall under my IPR and could be used by competitors so are considered commercially sensitive.

To close out here, some final images.

Phoenix airport at dusk.
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Couple of sponge bobs at Taft behind the gas station where I always fill up before dropping the rental off.
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Couple of EMU's at Liverpool Street, it's either too busy, staff too officious or I'm in a hurry, so I've never managed to get a photo here. But I had time spare and they let me through whilst they serviced my train, the gate staff were polite and talkative and allowed me to take a photo.
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Finally a little quiz, I picked this up at Chalender and they are quite rare to find, certainly intact, If original then it's quite old, certainly ATSF vintage, I did also find the more modern replacement as well and the bit that goes on the top.
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I'll post those when the answer to the above has been revealed or guessed. I'm quite (very actually) pleased to have found these, even more so both styles and the important piece on top, though it's the more later type; the earlier type top would have been just too much to expect. I'm sure they still exist out there in the brush if you look long and hard enough. I've also some photos of the complete installation, all be it dismantled and replaced by more modern equipment.

MD
 
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Purple-haze

Western Thunderer
Mick,I know diddley squat about yankee motive power,and even less about their trains:rolleyes:,but have really enjoyed joining you on your travels,and the photos are fantastic,which makes the next bit even more fffff-rustrating:rant:Since your posting on 27 April, I have lost 90% of the photos you have posted. They all come up with the image no. and jpg! Is it me?

regards

Rog
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Roger,

Thanks and glad you enjoyed them, I've checked back and I can see all the photos and you should too as they are embedded in the forum and not linked to a 3rd party host site.

I've only updated the images up to the 16th April (and realised that some of the earlier ones have not been compressed so will re-go back and do that to help page loading) so it can't be that.

It could be your PC cache and you could try emptying that, if you know how to, or try CTRL+F5 which forces a page refresh.

MickD
 
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Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
Finally a little quiz, I picked this up at Chalender and they are quite rare to find, certainly intact, If original then it's quite old, certainly ATSF vintage, I did also find the more modern replacement as well and the bit that goes on the top.

So what colour is the telegraph wire insulator. White, green or blue. Ceramic or glass?

I've also had to remove all the US locomotive walkarounds I posted up, they now fall under my IPR and could be used by competitors so are considered commercially sensitive.

A shame, but obviously necessary. I found your Dash 8-40B photos useful for detailing my model. Would detail photos be available on request for personal use? Not that I have any modern locos yet!
 
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