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Phill Dyson

Western Thunderer
Hear hear to the idea of a good summer:thumbs:

If it isn't too cheeky and feel free to ignore, I'd love to see you tackling the dilapidated dieselly S&D idea, this is a great theme that I'm not sure I have ever seen modelled.

I kept on at Captain Kernow about it half a lifetime ago but he completely ignored me, as usual:))

Simon
Hi Simon :)

Definitely my favoured option at the moment ;).......something I've toyed with for a long time now, but it will require further investigation in to the practicality's of fitting it in the loft though, I will of course keep you posted though & thanks for the encouragement :):thumbs:
 

Ressaldar

Western Thunderer
decide whether to order the scatter gun - complete with ammunition or simply accept that all war is futile and start putting the car in the workshop garage

regards

Mike
 

28ten

Guv'nor
A long list of projects but priority must go to those already started. At the top of the pile is my early 1920's 'Manchester Diner' (Pines after 1927) which, after a good start has stalled.
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2012 was a good year for the North Somerset Light Railway with Tucking Mill making its exhibition debut in near completed form so I would like to push the Bath project forward in 2013.

Jerry




How are you going to line those?
 

queensquare

Western Thunderer
How are you going to line those?

Haven't you got any easier questions:)

Seriously, I have tried various techniques with mixed results. The one I am probably going to go for is a little radical and would only work in 2mm. I have some more experimenting to do but if it works I will report fully here.

Jerry
 

28ten

Guv'nor
Haven't you got any easier questions:)

Seriously, I have tried various techniques with mixed results. The one I am probably going to go for is a little radical and would only work in 2mm. I have some more experimenting to do but if it works I will report fully here.

Jerry
I read in an early MRJ about scribing the brass might that work? I just wondered because its one of those things that really cant be left off. Showing my ignorance are they MR or S&D ?
 

queensquare

Western Thunderer
I read in an early MRJ about scribing the brass might that work? I just wondered because its one of those things that really cant be left off. Showing my ignorance are they MR or S&D ?

They are Midland, along with the vast majority of through trains over the S&D - the SDJ didn't have any corridor stock of its own. In my period the 'Manchester Diner', which also contained a section originating in Liverpool, was made up of a Midland rake and an LNWR one on alternate days. If I live long enough I would also like to build the LNW rake (a beutiful livery IMO) although I only have one picture of it in my collection, and that only shows the first three coaches.

As for the lining, I have a MR CCT (shrunk PC etch) that has had more coats of paint than the Forth bridge. I have tried various methods of lining on it, including scribing through to the brass. None have yet satisfied for a variety of reasons - too difficult, time consuming, lack of consistancy, too bold etc etc. Lining in 2mm is very small and whilst it has to be there it needs to be very subdued. A look at contemporary photos will demonstrate how difficult it is to see. I see many examples in the larger scales which, whilst beautifully executed, are most unrealistic in that they leap out at you.

My favoured method at the moment (it worked on the CCT, yet to try it on a full coach) is to line the beading black as per prototype and then very lightly dry brush in a pale straw colour. You don't even need to pick up all the edges, a suggestion is enough. The panels are polished with a cotton bud to remove any excess from the dry brushing and hey presto - a lined coach. As I said, this would not work in the bigger scales but in 2mm, you model trains rather than individual vehicles.

I will be cracking on with the rake in the new year so when I get to the painting stage I will report how it goes.

Jerry
 

Pugsley

Western Thunderer
Unfortunately, I seem to have exactly the same projects for 2013 as I did for 2012, with the exception of a 4mm scale class 37, which appears to have been the only thing I actually completed in 2012 :oops:

I'm determined to get the Cargowaggon twins done for next year, and the 37 finished for Telford, but other than that, I'm not setting myself too much as, if things go to plan, it should be an exciting and busy year.
 
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Simon Dunkley

Guest
That'll be sticking with one scale for more than four months then :p
Incidentally, that is grossly unfair: as you know, apart from a brief dalliance with the most absurd scale going*, I have remained true to the two logical, imperial scales for my adult life.

If you had said, "Subject to model for more than 4 hours," then I might have conceded the point, although I grant that 4 hours might be an extreme example of hyperbole (although I refuse to be drawn on which way the exaggeration goes...)

* I imagine you have picked up on the insult already. If there is one thing you are good at, it's knowing when you have been insulted. That's when - not if.
 

28ten

Guv'nor
They are Midland, along with the vast majority of through trains over the S&D - the SDJ didn't have any corridor stock of its own. In my period the 'Manchester Diner', which also contained a section originating in Liverpool, was made up of a Midland rake and an LNWR one on alternate days. If I live long enough I would also like to build the LNW rake (a beutiful livery IMO) although I only have one picture of it in my collection, and that only shows the first three coaches.

As for the lining, I have a MR CCT (shrunk PC etch) that has had more coats of paint than the Forth bridge. I have tried various methods of lining on it, including scribing through to the brass. None have yet satisfied for a variety of reasons - too difficult, time consuming, lack of consistancy, too bold etc etc. Lining in 2mm is very small and whilst it has to be there it needs to be very subdued. A look at contemporary photos will demonstrate how difficult it is to see. I see many examples in the larger scales which, whilst beautifully executed, are most unrealistic in that they leap out at you.

My favoured method at the moment (it worked on the CCT, yet to try it on a full coach) is to line the beading black as per prototype and then very lightly dry brush in a pale straw colour. You don't even need to pick up all the edges, a suggestion is enough. The panels are polished with a cotton bud to remove any excess from the dry brushing and hey presto - a lined coach. As I said, this would not work in the bigger scales but in 2mm, you model trains rather than individual vehicles.

I will be cracking on with the rake in the new year so when I get to the painting stage I will report how it goes.

Jerry
I also seem to remember Guy Williams suggesting that full on lining was too much for a GWR 517 in 4mm. The challenge is getting the impression....
There must also be a huge list of locos with a layout that size?
 

queensquare

Western Thunderer
There must also be a huge list of locos with a layout that size?

There are but not too many, my comment that Bath is just a two platform BLT was only partly in jest. Other than on summer saturdays, up/down Diner/Pines aside, trains were mainly local - there were long spells with not a lot going on. I shall be attempting to represent a mid week service in early summer.

Jerry
 

Buckjumper

Flying Squad
An epic failure there then...

Que? It's a 2013 project I forgot to mention previously...I've got 12 months to produce an epic fail ;)

what happened to the model of Toby the Tram based on Jim McG's kit?

Um... it's a class G15 based on the Y6. Toby, on the other hand, as any connoisseur will know (see what I did there?), was a class C53 (J70).

Nathan plods along with it in his own time as the mood takes him; there's no mileage in chivvying him along with it.
 

Buckjumper

Flying Squad
Incidentally, that is grossly unfair: as you know, apart from a brief dalliance with the most absurd scale going*...<snip>

* I imagine you have picked up on the insult already. If there is one thing you are good at, it's knowing when you have been insulted. That's when - not if.

It wasn't missed. :p So frequent are the brickbats that they've become like water off a pannier's bunker (continuing the Awdry theme of the above post).

Incidentally, Simon's comment about 'the most absurd scale going' is a reference to his failure to embrace S7 - something about a silly combination of mm and feet and wotnot. Happily I have the fruits of his discarded labours, as he is a very skilled modeller...when he actually does something instead of wringing his hands! ;)

One of the minor entries in my 2013 'to do' list is to complete the Midland van you started.
 
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Simon Dunkley

Guest
Happily I have the fruits of his discarded labours, as he is a very skilled modeller...when he actually does something instead of wringing his hands! ;)
Listen.
Can you hear that silence?
That's the result of you being nice to me, that is.
One of the minor entries in my 2013 'to do' list is to complete the Midland van you started.
Ah yes, the one with the lovely corners which fail to mate properly.
Good luck - even a man of your prodigious talents will need it, what with two obstacles to overcome at once: worn moulds and a silly scale to boot!

Addendum. I embraced the "Scale" part of S7 completely. It was the seven bit which defeated me.
 
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