Wheels for 03 & 04 shunters?

Discussion in 'Talk' started by SteveO, 14 February 2014.

  1. SteveO

    SteveO Guest

    Thanks Steph! In time I'll be in touch about some sort of custom gearbox to offer with the kit – mutual benefits, of course, if you're interested?
     
  2. Steph Dale

    Steph Dale Western Thunderer

    Delighted, of course!
    Steph
     
  3. SimonT

    SimonT Western Thunderer

    Steve,
    I saw the discussion on the Kettering about louvres but thought this might be a better place to post. Attached is a quick sketch that could be printed and might provide a solution.

    Simon
     

    Attached Files:

    Pugsley and SteveO like this.
  4. SteveO

    SteveO Guest

    Thanks Simon, I was thinking of doing something like that too. As far as I can make out at this early stage, this would be the biggest hurdle to overcome, now that accurate wheels are about to enter production – not counting the curve transitions over the bonnet and fuel tank hump, but a solution like this could be used there too.
     
  5. Steph Dale

    Steph Dale Western Thunderer

    Steve,
    Is there any of the Archer stuff that would work to do the louvres as a decal?
    Steph
     
  6. SimonT

    SimonT Western Thunderer

    Steve,
    the panel was sized off my MMP 03. When my printer returns from having a new laser fitted, I will try to print the panel as it will add to the what you can print and what you cannot print knowledge.

    Simon
     
  7. SteveO

    SteveO Guest

    I must admit I've not thought of that approach before. It may be worth investigating if I go down the resin master route. Thanks!
     
  8. SteveO

    SteveO Guest

    Do you mind posting a pic of your MMP 03 here so I can compare it to the DJH version please. I've never seen one before but I was talking to Adrian Swain about him reintroducing the kit at some stage.
     
  9. SimonT

    SimonT Western Thunderer

    Steve,
    here you are. The kit came to me part butchered built. The real Coed Ely loco didn't have the vac box but I didn't have the plain louvered panel so some compromise was accepted. If you are going to the Nottingham show I can bring it along as the 'Beeg is out for the weekend.

    Simon DSC_3499.JPG DSC_3500.JPG DSC_3502.JPG DSC_3503.JPG DSC_3504.JPG DSC_3506.JPG DSC_3508.JPG
     
    SteveO and Rob Pulham like this.
  10. SteveO

    SteveO Guest

    Excellent, thanks Simon. That looks very similar to the DJH kit.
     
  11. SteveO

    SteveO Guest

    Just a little update on Little Loco Co. I've now had over 2700 website views and several confirmed reservations for the 03 and 04 kits. Some good contacts were made at Kettering with one supplier agreeing to do all my white metal castings (two types of exhaust stack plus reservoir tanks) for a very reasonable price that would not make it worthwhile for me to buy the equipment necessary to do it myself.

    Several items which were supplied as white metal castings will now be supplied as lost-wax brass (air horn, 04 vac pipes, etc), plus some new parts in the offing for some items not originally supplied in the kit (fuel & rad filler caps, lower fuel filler pipe, etc).

    The aim of this careful supplier sourcing is to retain the 2006 basic kit price of £85, not including wheels, while increasing value. As the wheels have not been finalised yet I haven't received a formal price, but they will be included in the kit with a discount on RRP. The supply date of the end of April remains in place.

    Thanks very much for all the support and advice given here, I really appreciate it.

    www.littleloco.co.uk
    littlelococompany@gmail.com
     
  12. alcazar

    alcazar Guest

    Sounds excellent.
    Will the wheels be in the general Slater's list, or from you?

    I wonder if Slaters would accept unopened wheels of the incorrect sort in exchange......?
     
  13. SteveO

    SteveO Guest

    Jeff, I will only buy enough stock to compliment my kits so I won't act as a general retailer for Slaters. They fully intend to carry stock and I get the feeling talking to David that some enquiries may have already been made.

    As I've just bought a DJH 03 kit I'll also be looking for some replacement wheels!
     
  14. alcazar

    alcazar Guest

    I have one of those to make too, so me too.

    I foresee a few Slaters wheelsets on e-bay.......

    On a slightly different tack...louvres. I'm sure I once saw a method for making REAL ones, ie: stamped out of brass or nickel silver sheet, using a hardened part in a lathe/drillpress/milling machine.
    It was in one of the earlier MRJ's.....
     
  15. Osgood

    Osgood Western Thunderer

    Were you thinking of this perchance, Jeff?

    http://www.davidlosmith.co.uk/LMS_Fowler.htm

    I made something similar (but very crude!) for making full-size louvres in the engine side panels of Scammell Constructors, had the sheets slit along the cut line and simply pressed the sheet between male and female dies.

    Tony
     
    SteveO likes this.
  16. JimG

    JimG Western Thunderer

    I'm also trying to find an article by Gerald Wingrove - the car modeller - on the tool he uses to do louvres. I think he started with one which stamped individual louvres but I think he progressed onto one which used a hardened wheel cutter which moved along the louvres like a guillotine wheel, cutting and shaping as it went. The advantage of the second type was that it could be used for any length of louvre, whereas a separate stamping tool had to be made for each different length of louvre.

    Jim.
     
  17. JimG

    JimG Western Thunderer

  18. Osgood

    Osgood Western Thunderer

    MRJ 45, No.1 Shop, Paul Bernsten - Pressing Louvers (note spelling from Index).
     
  19. alcazar

    alcazar Guest

    Thanks, that was it.

    Any use to anyone? Thin n/s sheet overlays?
     
  20. adrian

    adrian Flying Squad

    If I remember correctly he developed it even further, being able to pivot the baseplate so that he could make curved louvres! but I can't remember for which car that was.