Whether to Weather

richard carr

richard carr

Western Thunderer
I can see where you are coming from, but for me that photo is far too small and it has been taken on dull day so that there is very little contrast tending to make the colours blend in together.

Richard
 
Mr Grumpy

Mr Grumpy

Western Thunderer
....so my wife has now jumped on the 'let's bash Richard's weathering' bandwagon and to quote:
"Usually anything you weather looks too oily to touch... these don't look the same!"
I have tried to explain I am trying to portray an almost X-works loco, but she also feels it needs a little more. I guess if I want some dinner tonight, I will have to comply... :D
 
richard carr

richard carr

Western Thunderer
Richard

If you want it to be lightly weathered having recently been i works, I would say that the photo above isn't the one to use, that loco is pretty dirty, the body sides are clean as it probably went through a carriage washing plant recently but the roof bogies etc are filthy.

Please don't think I'm not trying to bash your weathering, I wouldn't dream of it I'm just trying to help you get a better result.

Richard
 
Mr Grumpy

Mr Grumpy

Western Thunderer
Hi Richard,
I am only too pleased that you have shown an interest , and I always welcome sound advice...thank you :)
I have dry brushed mat black, metalcote gun metal and Humbrol 'oil stain' wash in and around the brake linkages and axle boxes. I have also done the same with the water tanks and batteries.
Once dry, I will dry brush with a lighter shade of the 'frame gunk' and post some photos. I think I need to take them outside to get good enough lighting.
Also, once the wheels and brakes are fitted and weathered there will be a bit more relief.
Please continue to comment.. your thoughts are valued and a fresh pair of eyes is always very useful!
 
Mr Grumpy

Mr Grumpy

Western Thunderer
I built 5 JLTRT presflos over a couple of years, and used cement and cement powder as an experiment on the far left wagon. I have since toned it down with a covering of light grey paint. The middle wagon had just been finished and was placed in between the rest as a comparison.
The bridge was one of my first attempts at weathering anything. I used Martyn Welch's methods for producing the rust and at the time was pleasantly surprised at the result.
I am probably going to sell on the layout as I want to go back outside with a simple circuit round the garden.
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pete waterman

pete waterman

Western Thunderer
Rust can send you mad you could work on it for weeks adding shades. I start with Winsor Brown as a base then add salt were I want the rust then spray the colour and then wash of the salt and start to add the shades. Its not quick though !
 
Neil

Neil

Western Thunderer
richard carr said:
I can see where you are coming from, but for me that photo is far too small and it has been taken on dull day so that there is very little contrast tending to make the colours blend in together.

Richard
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I think that there is merit in the photo. First of all it's easy to see how well the loco tones with its environment, something that can be lost if we fix only on the item we are weathering and forget the surroundings it will be placed in. Secondly I think that the detail should be subservient to the whole. I'd be very happy with a model with the simple subtlety of the loco in the photo, it would have something of the real thing about it. Virtuoso weathering often looks like virtuoso weathering rather than the real world.
 
SimonT

SimonT

Western Thunderer
Rust can send you mad you could work on it for weeks adding shades. I start with Winsor Brown as a base then add salt were I want the rust then spray the colour and then wash of the salt and start to add the shades. Its not quick though !
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Pete,
try using the AK interactive Worn Effects acrylic fluid. It is quicker and more flexible that salt. I got mine from HobbyHolidays. There is some good guidance on using it in the Weathering Magazine.
Simon
 
Mr Grumpy

Mr Grumpy

Western Thunderer
pete waterman said:
Rust can send you mad you could work on it for weeks adding shades. I start with Winsor Brown as a base then add salt were I want the rust then spray the colour and then wash of the salt and start to add the shades. Its not quick though !
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Hi Pete,
I haven't heard of this technique before.
If you get the time, please could you give some more info on how it is applied? Also who makes the Windsor brown?

Thanks!
 
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40126

Western Thunderer
Mr Grumpy said:
Hi Richard
Thanks for your feedback :)
I had wanted to go for a relatively clean loco, as it would not have been repainted in to blue too long ago. I based the water tanks, batteries and bogies on the loco below. I agree there is still more to add, specially at the ends of the bogus where oil and grease staining has spread from the brake linkages. Your locos look great! I really like the 40s, but can't justify one on the Western region! Perhaps I will go for the Heljan 45.
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I just Googled 47082 'Atlas' & found this (amongst others)....

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Steve :cool:
 
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