7mm Yorky D's LT - The Brill Collection....

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
I've also processed some more of my LT photos - these were taken in the mid to late 70's and early 80's when was given a 'proper' camera as a birthday present. I was already finding it's limitations in poor light.

Firstly, one of my grandfathers 60's photo of a RF interior.
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Then onto my photos. Interior of 1938 tube stock when it was operating on the East London Line. 00 Harrow 13.jpg

Metropolitan T stock de-icing unit at Neasden Depot open day.
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Jubilee Line stock heading towards Charing Cross.00 Harrow 17.jpg

Park Lane/Hyde Park corner (late 70's/early 80's) - interesting firstly due to the low level of traffic and secondly an early trunk route road sign.00 Harrow 23 Park Lane.jpg

Just to show the traffic levels and the type of cars still running in the 70's - Park Lane again.
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Whitechapel, District Line. At this time (late 70's early 80's) there were still a few original fittings: Ticket and Information sign, Original ticket collection booth with swan neck lamps, Hexagonal lampshade from the ceiling.00 Harrow 25 Whitechapel.jpg

Baker Street towards Edgware Road. This was before it was restored to original condition and the brickwork exposed. 00 Harrow 26 Baker Stl.jpg

And finally a proper electric loco - from Steam on the Met. Rickmansworth. 00 Harrow 26.jpg
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Bit of a long shot Dave, but do you, or anyone else happen to have any unpublished pics of Mansion House station platforms please?

I have reached a reference dead end while trying to rescue the rejected District Railway Volume 2 book jacket illustration!

Pete.
 

Bagpuss

Western Thunderer
Dave nice little wagons, I do like the Daleks sitting in the trucks have a soft spot for them! They use to frighten me when I was a child and use to hide behind the settee till they went, as you do!!
Love the old photos to I remember going in to london in the late 1960s and early 1970s with my Dad delivering butter to supermarkets we never got held up much! Also remember going on a few coach trips with school to the museums.
And the best ever trip was with the church youth group. One of the kids dads some how borrowed a coach. Well it was the worst coach that was still on the road Ihave ever seen. It had seats missing a few of the windows at the side had plywood in stead of glass The speedometer did not work but on the plus side it did run rather nicely!! We did around 100 miles each way in it including the Motorway, we did not know how fast we went! But all with no problems, happy days.
 

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
Dave nice little wagons, I do like the Daleks sitting in the trucks have a soft spot for them!

Good of you to say so. These wagons have been rather challenging having not built a brass kit of this quality for several years.

I thought the Daleks would just lighten it up a bit. :)

Love the old photos to I remember going in to london in the late 1960s and early 1970s with my Dad delivering butter to supermarkets we never got held up much! Also remember going on a few coach trips with school to the museums.

I've slowly been going through all my negatives looking for LT related stuff most taken around the mid 70's and 8o's. And I also remember school trips on elderly buses to London. When I lived at Aylesbury my family used to travel around quite a lot on Green and Golden Rover bus tickets and all zone travel cards.
 

Bagpuss

Western Thunderer
I have seen a few of the home made wood things at Toy auctions and they mostly seemed terrible to me. The tinplate locos of the time I rather like, they have a charm.
 
RT 4751

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
...... the shed today you're sure of a big surprise
If you go down to the shed today you'll never believe your eyes
For today's the day we made a moul-ld

Spinning time is here again.

Yes, a mould was made of the seat and other patterns I made earlier and pieces I hacked off the Hachette RT to make replacement parts.

The patterns in the mould can (made from a brake disc hub).
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After cooking for 2 hours, the mould cleaned and gated.
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And after centrifugal casting.Mould 2.jpg

And the results... I require 24 seats for one RT - 12 left and 12 right hand. I've only 18 so far so I will cast some more later. I made replacements using some of the plastic parts in the bus namely: front and rear inner bulkheads, drivers bonnet window frame, bonnet cover, radiator, roof/floor above bonnet and wing mirrors. The seats, indicator lights (ears) and Gibson ticket machine case are from my own patterns. On the railway side to the right the ticket machines, ticket gates and station litter bins are from my own patterns.
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And some more of the results - ticket machines and platform gates for 'yellow' tickets - remember those....? Mould 7.jpg

RT seats, bonnets, radiators and cases for Gibson ticket machines.
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Wing mirrors, rear inner bulkheads - I corrected the left hand one here to have a square panel for a fare chart, indicator lights (LT 'ears' for RT, RF and RM) and some seats.
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Met Bo-Bo

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
It's finally started....
Having taken delivery of this....
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And, no I'm not going spend hours describing the packaging and how to open the box.
This is what's inside - a complete kit nevertheless: wheels, motor, gears, comprehensive instructions including photos and some line drawings, etches (naturally), all the parts labelled and individually packaged and the bit I like is the card with the wire to be used attached and labelled. I also ordered a pair of the cab interior detail kits.
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Anyway the first thing I did was punch all of the necessary rivets in the solebars, buffer beams etc whilst they were still on the etch frame. The floor was removed and the necessary rivets punched.
Then I faffed around with the plate below provided as part of the etch. The build will broadly follow the instructions but I will be taking one or two deviations from these - no change there then. :)
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Next were the trucks- it'll already be noted I've not followed the sequence described in the instructions as I wanted to get the trucks operational first.
It was my intention drive all axles but having seen the non-driving truck assembly and carried out a dry run for measurements etc I decided against this as the drive line falls right in the centre of the bolster plate. And I didn't want the hassle of making a new bolster to arch over the drive line coupled with the faff of having to reposition (and risk compromising) the truck mounting to obtain the correct ride height.
Firstly the non-driving truck. This is made up from milled brass and really goes together quite well. The only downside is I do not have enough hands to hold the parts whilst soldering the butt joints. This would have been easier if I had a resistance soldering iron but with the number of kits I build I cannot really justify it's cost. As can be seen I'm using Slaters wheels (re-purposed from the Class 33) rather than the Peartree wheels provided in the kit. Slaters wheels are insulated all round whereas the Peartree wheels are insulated on one side only and as I operate DCC I want to minimise the risk of track current leaking into loco and possible shorting via the couplings and buffers. The Peartree wheels will go into stock.
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Next were the truck mounts. Again formed from milled brass and butt jointed, however I beefed up the corners with 2mm square section brass. Probably overkill but the stronger joint makes me happier. I suppose a strong joint would make anyone happy. :DMet 06.jpg
I also added some 0.45mm brass wire down the centre line to give a slight fore and aft rock on the driving truck and some lateral rock on the non-driving truck.Met 07.jpg
Next came the driving truck. Here I substituted the Mashima 1833 motor provided in the kit for a Canon 1833 motor.
Easy I thought, ha ha. No - completely wrong as the Mashima motor has two bosses whereas the Canon only has one and is also a gnats crotchet longer. The idea is to support the motor using the two plates (left in the photo below) however as I am using a Canon 1833 another solution was required. This meant supporting the motor from one end only - again, my solution is probably overkill.
The first step was to ream the support hole to match the boss on the Canon motor followed by soldering the support plate to the truck mounting plate. Worried whether the weight of the motor may bend the support plate I added some brass angle to the front, made some side gussets from scrap etch and added some brass angle in the inside corner.
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The rest of the truck was made up and once I had set the gear/worm tolerance I soldered some brass angle underneath the motor - which acts as a support so needn't have gone to the trouble of beefing up the motor mount - Doh! - and more importantly it provides the correct gear meshing automatically when the truck is taken apart and reassembled.
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The allen key hex bolts provided have since been replaced with slotted bolts.
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Close up of the underside of the driving truck.
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Now the truck just needs running in.
As for the loco I'm favouring either no.1 John Lyon or no.3 Sir Ralph Verney however the latter had a slightly different rivet arrangement on the solebar which I'd have to check. But do have nameplates for no.13 Dick Whittington.
 

Scale7JB

Western Thunderer
Nice to see one of these being built online.. Only seen a couple of these in the flesh built by KDG, and they're very nice indeed.

JB.
 
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Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer

Aesthetics...:eek:

It was mainly to do with what was provided in the kit - four 'normal' top hat bearings and four shortened or pork pie hat bearings for use with the supplied Peartree wheels which are insulated on one side only. I would have replaced the pork pie hat for top hat bearings but guess what - I could only find three top hat bearings in my spares box. As I am using Slaters wheels I mounted the 'brim' on the outside of the frames and filed the 'brim' back a bit to ensure the wheels spun freely.

The kit's instructions (extract below) explain how they were to be used for both trucks... and having a Teutonic approach at times I'd rather have eight of the same bearings :rolleyes: - hence the filing back.

I'd also like to think there would be less friction as there is a smaller contact area with the axles - but probably makes negligible difference in this scale :).

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