LNER Pacific, brakes and spring sources

mickoo

Western Thunderer
I'm still going round in circles trying to unravel which locos had what and who supplies castings etc, there are hints and snippets all over the web so I thought I might try and gather it all into one place, primarily for myself but for others too in the future and to prevent further dilution in Nicks thread.

Please feel free to add information and I'll update this first post as a one stop shop for who does what and hopefully part or order numbers as well as photos so folks can see exactly what they are getting, I'll add photos as and when I get my relevant parts for the Peppercorn A1 and Finney A4 etc, once I know what I need;) .

Gresley A1/A3
A1
A1 springs.jpg

A3
A3 Springs.jpg
Note Gresley brakes are trailing, front is to right

Brakes
Two vac cylinders side by side ahead of leading coupled wheel
:- Ragstone (pr) 76525 (White Metal)
A3 brakes.jpg
Brake shaft
:- Ragstone 76064 (Brass)

Brake shaft bracket
:- Ragstone (pr) 76063 (Brass)

Brake hanger brackets
:- Ragstone (6) 76067 (Brass)

Brake hanger bracket rear
:- Ragstone (pr) 76068 (Brass)

Brake cross beams
:- Ragstone (3) 76087 (Brass)

Springs
Driving axle spring 3'6"
:- Ragstone 76088 - includes hangers (Brass)
:- Hobbyhorse 7RL113W Looks like 4'0", quantity unknown - includes hangers.
7RL113W_thumbnail-500x500.jpg

Spring bracket - fore
:- ND/LG - N.Y.A
:- Hobbyhorse 7RL115W
7RL115W_thumbnail-500x500.jpg

Spring bracket - intermediate, rear
:- ND/LG - N.Y.A




Gresley A4
A4 springs.jpg
Note Gresley brakes are trailing, front is to right

Brakes
Three vac cylinders, two fore and one aft
:- Ragstone (pr) 76525 (White Metal)...front pair
:- Ragstone 73751 (White Metal)....rear....I think, to confirm/check.

Brake hanger brackets
:- Ragstone (6) 76067 (Brass)

Brake hanger bracket rear
:- Ragstone (pr) 76068 (Brass)

Brake shaft
:- Ragstone 76064 (Brass)

Brake shaft bracket
:- Ragstone 76063 (Brass)

Brake cross beams:-
:- Ragstone (3) 76087 (Brass)

Springs
Driving axle spring 4'0"
:- Ragstone 76078 - includes hangers (Brass)
:- Hobbyhorse 7RL113W Looks like 4'0", quantity unknown - includes hanger
7RL113W_thumbnail-500x500.jpg

Spring bracket - fore.
:- ND/LG - N.Y.A
:- Hobbyhorse (pr) 7RL115W
7RL115W_thumbnail-500x500.jpg

Spring bracket - intermediate, rear.
:- ND/LG - N.Y.A

Peppercorn A1/A2
A1P springs.jpg
Note Peppercorn brakes are leading, front is to left.

Brakes
One steam cylinder
:- Ragstone 76505 (White Metal)
A1 brake cylinder.jpg
Brake crank:-
:- Ragstone 76007 (Brass)

Brake hanger brackets
:- Ragstone (6) 76069 (Brass)

Brake shaft bracket
:-

Brake cross beams
:- Ragstone 76006 (Brass)
76006.jpg

Springs
Driving axle spring 4'0"
:- Ragstone 76078 - includes hangers (Brass)
:- Hobbyhorse 7RL113W Looks like 4'0", quantity unknown - includes hangers.
7RL113W_thumbnail-500x500.jpg

Ok that'll do for starters, I'm sure I've missed stuff or got the wrong end of what is available, hence throwing it open to y'all to clarify.
 

Ragstone Andy

Active Member
lots of info from Mickloo, some answers from me:

A1/3
Brake hanger brackets
:- Ragstone (6) 76067 Why 6 if you need 2 of below
Because some locos they are suitable for have 6 of them

Brake shaft bracket pr
:- Ragstone (pr) 76063 Not sure where this component goes
At the front- part of the spring hangar

Springs
Driving axle spring 3'6"
:- Ragstone 76088 Does this include the spring brackets
Yes

A4
Brakes
Three vac cylinders, two fore and one aft
:-
If they are the same as the A3 - Ragstone 76505

Brake cross beams:-
Looks like they are the same as the A3 - 76087

Springs
Driving axle spring 4'0"
:- Ragstone 76078 Does this include the spring brackets
Yes

Peppercorn A1/A2

Brake shaft:-
Ragstone 76007

Brake shaft bracket:-
Part of the frame spacer, no current Ragstone part (but if you as nicely I *might* be able to find one)

Brake cross beams:-
Ragstone 76006

Springs
Driving axle spring 4'0"
:-Ragstone 76078

Yes, the do include the brackets

Also, part 76089, spring damper pads for modifying spring hangar brackets. some of the item illustrated below:
IMG_3260.jpgIMG_4792.jpgIMG_4784.jpg

Available to view (or preferably purchase!) on stand 87

Regards

Andy
 

OzzyO

Western Thunderer
lots of info from Mickloo, some answers from me:

A1/3
Brake hanger brackets
:- Ragstone (6) 76067 Why 6 if you need 2 of below
Because some locos they are suitable for have 6 of them

Brake shaft bracket pr
:- Ragstone (pr) 76063 Not sure where this component goes
At the front- part of the spring hangar

Springs
Driving axle spring 3'6"
:- Ragstone 76088 Does this include the spring brackets
Yes

A4
Brakes
Three vac cylinders, two fore and one aft
:-
If they are the same as the A3 - Ragstone 76505

Brake cross beams:-
Looks like they are the same as the A3 - 76087

Springs
Driving axle spring 4'0"
:- Ragstone 76078 Does this include the spring brackets
Yes

Peppercorn A1/A2

Brake shaft:-
Ragstone 76007

Brake shaft bracket:-
Part of the frame spacer, no current Ragstone part (but if you as nicely I *might* be able to find one)

Brake cross beams:-
Ragstone 76006

Springs
Driving axle spring 4'0"
:-Ragstone 76078

Yes, the do include the brackets

Also, part 76089, spring damper pads for modifying spring hangar brackets. some of the item illustrated below:
View attachment 35674View attachment 35675View attachment 35676

Available to view (or preferably purchase!) on stand 87

Regards

Andy

That green is a bit on the hard side to read, a nice blue maybe a bit better on the eye.

Click and the door had closed
the next sound was of a gun cocking
but I was around the corner by then
and in the next cab.

OzzyO.
 

mickoo

Western Thunderer
lots of info from Mickloo, some answers from me:

A1/3
Brake hanger brackets
:- Ragstone (6) 76067 Why 6 if you need 2 of below
Because some locos they are suitable for have 6 of them

Brake shaft bracket pr
:- Ragstone (pr) 76063 Not sure where this component goes
At the front- part of the spring hangar

Springs
Driving axle spring 3'6"
:- Ragstone 76088 Does this include the spring brackets
Yes

A4
Brakes
Three vac cylinders, two fore and one aft
:-
If they are the same as the A3 - Ragstone 76505

Brake cross beams:-
Looks like they are the same as the A3 - 76087

Springs
Driving axle spring 4'0"
:- Ragstone 76078 Does this include the spring brackets
Yes

Peppercorn A1/A2

Brake shaft:-
Ragstone 76007

Brake shaft bracket:-
Part of the frame spacer, no current Ragstone part (but if you as nicely I *might* be able to find one)

Brake cross beams:-
Ragstone 76006

Springs
Driving axle spring 4'0"
:-Ragstone 76078

Yes, the do include the brackets

Also, part 76089, spring damper pads for modifying spring hangar brackets. some of the item illustrated below:
View attachment 35674View attachment 35675View attachment 35676

Available to view (or preferably purchase!) on stand 87

Regards

Andy
Awsome information! will ammend first post accordingly:thumbs:

Stand 87 it is then, ohh and tender axle boxes with springs and brake layshaft too please ;)
 
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