Richard Insole
Western Thunderer
Well... Where to start. Following a trip to London last year, I have had my love of the 92's and all underground trains/stations, etc rekindled. I will be incorporating this somehow in my layout.
I am sure you are all aware that any form of 00 gauge LT models are just astronomically expensive!
LT museum did a run of the 38's and 62's, which were very nice but have all since been put out of production. Those that you can find out there on the likes of 'Flebay' and small pockets of private sellers, they know that they are a hot and rare commodity and well.. Just no! I fear I don't have enough kidneys to flog just to get my hands on one carriage. (lol)
Additionally, There is/was a chap called 'John Polley' from 'Metro Models', who was making some brass and 3D printed kits but, again, the cost can rack up very fast. I have since found that he is selling his design on a page that creates them still but, at £75 a shell/print. It's still not really an option.
So, What does this mean? It's time to start a scratch-building project... Gulp!
I found some drawings (with the help of Dad) of the 92's with some very useful dimensions.
My brother has a machine that can cut out. It's like a printer that instead of printing with ink, has a blade and can cut like a laser cutter. With a lot of head-scratching and some choice words, I managed to create a scale drawing that could be cut out on his machine. I will say, it is a very rough design and has been cut in card to see where the issues and changes are needed. but, as a first attempt. I am very pleased with myself.
So, this is not a finished design. There are lots of details and corrections to make to move this on. Just think of this a flavour or a dry run of the basic shape and scale.
Here you can see there are a few things to look at here. You may have already noticed that there are too many doors. I was trying different cutting paths to see which is cut better and some redundancy. The plan is to have internal supports to hold the shape down the inside of the carriage, so that is why there are a few of the rings. you can also see the front and back end. The plan is to have them sandwiched up (not shown here)to build up the thickness and for ease of joining the various parts.
Wahey.. It worked! Now, don't get me wrong, it is very rough. I am still learning how to work the software with cut strokes and paths etc to get the best out of it. And, as it is just a card, some of the cuts are not as clean. Hopefully, this will be improved when using Plasticard materials (which is what I am planning on making this out of).
As I mentioned above, sandwiching the layers to build them up and add strength and recess. How do you make a join like a door. If this was all flat, it would look so wrong. The added benefit of this is to cut the door out, have the layer behind and glue the door back in. Bingo! I think this will work well.
As you can also see, this is against my cutting mat and the squares are centimeters to give you an idea of how small some of the hurdles we have here.
Those lights are very very small,. Some support tabs will also need to be put into the design. You can see that some of the lines are a bit wavy here.
I and dad are very excited about this little project and this really is the early stages of the build. There are lots of hurdles and steps that we need to find to make the end product actually work. Hopefully, we will have an end product that can then just be churned out to make a production line and a couple of sets.
Wish us luck
Cheers,
Rich
I am sure you are all aware that any form of 00 gauge LT models are just astronomically expensive!
LT museum did a run of the 38's and 62's, which were very nice but have all since been put out of production. Those that you can find out there on the likes of 'Flebay' and small pockets of private sellers, they know that they are a hot and rare commodity and well.. Just no! I fear I don't have enough kidneys to flog just to get my hands on one carriage. (lol)
Additionally, There is/was a chap called 'John Polley' from 'Metro Models', who was making some brass and 3D printed kits but, again, the cost can rack up very fast. I have since found that he is selling his design on a page that creates them still but, at £75 a shell/print. It's still not really an option.
So, What does this mean? It's time to start a scratch-building project... Gulp!
I found some drawings (with the help of Dad) of the 92's with some very useful dimensions.
My brother has a machine that can cut out. It's like a printer that instead of printing with ink, has a blade and can cut like a laser cutter. With a lot of head-scratching and some choice words, I managed to create a scale drawing that could be cut out on his machine. I will say, it is a very rough design and has been cut in card to see where the issues and changes are needed. but, as a first attempt. I am very pleased with myself.
So, this is not a finished design. There are lots of details and corrections to make to move this on. Just think of this a flavour or a dry run of the basic shape and scale.
Here you can see there are a few things to look at here. You may have already noticed that there are too many doors. I was trying different cutting paths to see which is cut better and some redundancy. The plan is to have internal supports to hold the shape down the inside of the carriage, so that is why there are a few of the rings. you can also see the front and back end. The plan is to have them sandwiched up (not shown here)to build up the thickness and for ease of joining the various parts.
Wahey.. It worked! Now, don't get me wrong, it is very rough. I am still learning how to work the software with cut strokes and paths etc to get the best out of it. And, as it is just a card, some of the cuts are not as clean. Hopefully, this will be improved when using Plasticard materials (which is what I am planning on making this out of).
As I mentioned above, sandwiching the layers to build them up and add strength and recess. How do you make a join like a door. If this was all flat, it would look so wrong. The added benefit of this is to cut the door out, have the layer behind and glue the door back in. Bingo! I think this will work well.
As you can also see, this is against my cutting mat and the squares are centimeters to give you an idea of how small some of the hurdles we have here.
Those lights are very very small,. Some support tabs will also need to be put into the design. You can see that some of the lines are a bit wavy here.
I and dad are very excited about this little project and this really is the early stages of the build. There are lots of hurdles and steps that we need to find to make the end product actually work. Hopefully, we will have an end product that can then just be churned out to make a production line and a couple of sets.
Wish us luck
Cheers,
Rich