Class A tank liveries circa 1985

[Dog Star]

Any colour other than clean seems to be a reasonable answer. Actually there is a serious aspect to this subject and that relates to the red solebar of such tanks.

[1] what is the colour of the solebar for Class A tanks? (yes, red... OK - what might be the description on a tin of paint yet to be bought from Precision Paints?)

[2] how much of the solebar gets the red colour? (photos indicate that the red colour is applied to:-
* the solebar from end to end on the inside of the solebar channel;
* the outer edges of the top and bottom lips of the solebar;
* the rear face and outer edge of the headstocks.
... what about the top surface of the solebar?)

thank you, Graham

 

[Bob Reid]

Just thought I'd throw in these gratuitous pics of tanks sitting in the fuel offloading point at Craigentinny Graham

Handy for weathering (don't ask me the type of tanks - Paul B will have to help me out there)

 

[mickoo]

Actually Bobs pictures triggered something, if I'd have thought earlier I could have popped up to Ipswich and grabbed some TTA shots for you

These are the best I have, admitted some shots are more 'loco' orientated LOL, we have heavy snow predicted this week, which means me and my camera go walkabout and I'll be taking a few days off work to photo trains in the snow, I will go to Ipswich and hopefully the TTAs will be visible (some times stored locos block your view) and I'll grab some shots.

 

[Dog Star]

Thanks guys, nice photos and interesting that the last tank in the last photo has... just a train pipe with no indication of a MRP.

Bob, after searching up here and down there for photos, along you come with several of the long walkway version (which is the type that we are doing). Top photo has two with long walks, second photo has four long walkways and a short walk. What date are these pictures please?

reagrds, Graham

 

[Bob Reid]

92 or 93 Graham.....

 

[richard carr]

Graham

The red you want from precision is Railfreight Red.

Richard

 

[Dan Randall]

A couple of shots taken at Eastleigh 4 or 5 years ago that might be of use....







Regards

Dan

 

[Dog Star]

Thank you Dan, any more photos of that wagon or anyothers in the siding?

regards, Graham

 

[Dan Randall]

Thank you Dan, any more photos of that wagon or anyothers in the siding?

regards, Graham

I don't think so, but I can try and get some other shots for you next time I see some tanks standing around. Are there any particular views needed? If so, I'll see what I can do, though it might be a number of weeks before I see any!


Regards

Dan

 

[Dog Star]

I... I can try and get some other shots for you next time I see some tanks standing around. Are there any particular views needed? ...

Thank you for the offer Dan, yes please.

I am interested in these aspects of these wagons... and given our desire to paint the models in a livery more colourful than "grot" then photos of Class A tanks are preferred over photos of Class B tanks.

1) how are the brake yokes connected to the brake actuator?
2) how is the auxiliary reservoir connected to the main reservoir pipe?
3) how is pipework for the triple valve / distribution valve / smart gubbins connected to other fittings?
4) how does the walkway attach to the barrel?

As to 1), the kit provides a casting for the fulcrum levers to which are joined the yolks.... and castings for soime levers which lie parallel to the underframe. What is not clear is just how movement at the actuator is transmitted to the brake yolk fulcrums.

As to 2) and 3) the questions relate to the layout of the pipe runs.

As to 4) the question is about the metal strip / angle which is between the walkway and the barrel. Plain strip or angle... simple lengths weled at both ends or formed into an "U shape" so that the walkway lies on the horizontal portion of the "U".

regards, Graham

 

[Dan Randall]

Thank you for the offer Dan, yes please.

I am interested in these aspects of these wagons... and given our desire to paint the models in a livery more colourful than "grot" then photos of Class A tanks are preferred over photos of Class B tanks.

1) how are the brake yokes connected to the brake actuator?
2) how is the auxiliary reservoir connected to the main reservoir pipe?
3) how is pipework for the triple valve / distribution valve / smart gubbins connected to other fittings?
4) how does the walkway attach to the barrel?

As to 1), the kit provides a casting for the fulcrum levers to which are joined the yolks.... and castings for soime levers which lie parallel to the underframe. What is not clear is just how movement at the actuator is transmitted to the brake yolk fulcrums.

As to 2) and 3) the questions relate to the layout of the pipe runs.

As to 4) the question is about the metal strip / angle which is between the walkway and the barrel. Plain strip or angle... simple lengths weled at both ends or formed into an "U shape" so that the walkway lies on the horizontal portion of the "U".

regards, Graham

Graham - I'll print off your request and see what can be done next time I encounter some tanks, but as I said, it might not be for a few weeks. I'm sure you have other projects to be getting on with in the meantime though....!


Regards

Dan

 

[Dog Star]

... I'm sure you have other projects to be getting on with in the meantime though....

Too true Dan.

I seem to have been taking lessons in Scatter Gunning.

 

[mickoo]

If the distributor valve is the same type as a KFA then I posted photos are in your air brake thread this morning.

 

[Pugsley]

Graham, there is a former BP tank in the yard at Ropley, which you could probably gain access to if you turned up and asked nicely.

 

[Dog Star]

If the distributor valve is the same type as a KFA then I posted photos are in your air brake thread this morning.

I have no idea as yet.

... there is a former BP tank in the yard at Ropley...

I shall have an idea soon.