GNR Van Colour

lankytank

lankytank

Western Thunderer
OK collective, or more specifically those with a particularly GN leaning........ Got a van that's going to need a coat of the wet stuff when it gets a bit warmer.

Van colour has been described as "Oxide brown" or "Chocolate", a sort of warm, reddish dark brown. Now, my perception of these two colour descriptions do not tie in as being the same.

Without going down the Phoenix Precision route, what do you painter chaps/chapesses use when colouring in GNR freight stock - not to bothered on media type, just struggling with the colour - enamel, acrylic, rattle can, felt pen, crayons........ :eek: :rolleyes:

Suppose I could paint it NE grey...... Naaah!!!

Cheers now
Baz
 
lankytank

lankytank

Western Thunderer
Good man, Rob

Thanks for that. I believe the Vallejo products are stocked by Hobbycraft....? It seems if I work around 'Oxide' - feel like an experiment is fast approaching - with some appropriate weathering, I shouldn't be to far off....... It's the Chocolate reference that's got me going.

Unless anyone else knows different.........

Barry
 
Susie

Susie

Western Thunderer
Hi Barry,

The colour rather depends on what the van is, and also what date you're portraying it. Some were classed as NPCS and painted "Teak" colour (some were in fact teak) and some were painted "brown red oxide". Sometimes particular vans would be fitted, or just piped through, so they could run in passenger trains, or higher speeds than the regular goods, and this also determined the colour to some extent.

All rather confusing really...

What van have you modelled and what date?

Susie
 
lankytank

lankytank

Western Thunderer
Susie

Yes, quite confusing, 'specially if you know nowt about t'GN.... that'll be me then!!

Definitely not NPCS - just a run of the mill, down at heel, don't give it a second glance, money earner. It's one of Mike Williams' (of this parish) G3, 8 ton vans, the one with the four uprights on the end - my theory is that, it went through the repair shop just before grouping (say, mid 1922) & got a full coat of looking at, that should/could have lasted 'til, say, 1928/9 before it got another seeing to or scrapped....... Haven't made decision on piped through - yet.

Well, that's the story so far....... :confused:
 
Susie

Susie

Western Thunderer
Hi Barry,

Well you have a bit of a choice as to how to finish your model. The largest group in the 1922 census was of 669 vans to page 15, block 5/5A of the Illustrations of Wagon Stock (first published in 1905 and regularly updated). These were neither fitted nor piped, with either a single brake block on one wheel, or Morton brakes on all four wheels with the levers at the same end. If you want a piped van then you have a choice of only 32 (page 19, block 23). The seven gunpowder vans Mike mentions weren't piped - just the Morton brakes (page 17, block 16)

Apart from the gunpowder van they all seem to have been painted in the standard "Brown red oxide" colour.

Susie
 
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