Isaac Dixon
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Osgood
Western Thunderer
Did you drop onto this in your hunt for info, Mike?
Much conjecture of course:
The early Hughes products seemed to be of a shorter style without the substantial rear overhang - but is that more to do with the Boulton rebuilding process than the original engine designs?
Who knows if Hughes rebuilt a couple of Scottish engines prior to evolving their own distinctive style?
I stared to dig around for info on Furniss and his Hayling Island contacts - not enough time to go far down the burrow, today but you never know if an image of Isaac in his days with Furniss may be right in front of us somewhere in a write-up of construction of these railways.
The Scottish box tank genes are present in Isaac Dixon - and having dug out my Chronicles I discover that Boulton replaced the original 10" x 15" cylinders an 11" x 15" pair before onward sale, so Isaac might have received a replacement tank too.
We are so lucky to have Bennett's history of the Boulton's Siding operation, despite not knowing if the drawings can be relied on 100%.
I've just tried a comparison of his two drawings of Isaac and Nantmwar - the shaded one is Isaac (it would be better but I can't work out how to change the line colour of one):
I don't have enough reference material on either the Potteries, Shrewsbury & North Wales Rly or the South Coast railways to take a search for images of Isaac or Nantmwar further, but I am intrigued.
But in any case its academic at this stage of your build and I think you've already done Isaac proud in your recreation.
Much conjecture of course:
Hughes 0-4-0ST - Steam Workshop Services
This is a very interesting little loco. It came to us as a 5" gauge model of an unknown prototype and with equally unknown history. When it
www.steamworkshop.co.uk
Who knows if Hughes rebuilt a couple of Scottish engines prior to evolving their own distinctive style?
I stared to dig around for info on Furniss and his Hayling Island contacts - not enough time to go far down the burrow, today but you never know if an image of Isaac in his days with Furniss may be right in front of us somewhere in a write-up of construction of these railways.
The Scottish box tank genes are present in Isaac Dixon - and having dug out my Chronicles I discover that Boulton replaced the original 10" x 15" cylinders an 11" x 15" pair before onward sale, so Isaac might have received a replacement tank too.
We are so lucky to have Bennett's history of the Boulton's Siding operation, despite not knowing if the drawings can be relied on 100%.
I've just tried a comparison of his two drawings of Isaac and Nantmwar - the shaded one is Isaac (it would be better but I can't work out how to change the line colour of one):
I don't have enough reference material on either the Potteries, Shrewsbury & North Wales Rly or the South Coast railways to take a search for images of Isaac or Nantmwar further, but I am intrigued.
But in any case its academic at this stage of your build and I think you've already done Isaac proud in your recreation.
john lewsey
Western Thunderer
Your work is really good Mike, this looks good and your 9f is stunning.
John
John
spikey faz
Western Thunderer
Yes, I'm too far into the build to make any drastic changes now. But, I'm happy with how it looks.Did you drop onto this in your hunt for info, Mike?
Much conjecture of course:
The early Hughes products seemed to be of a shorter style without the substantial rear overhang - but is that more to do with the Boulton rebuilding process than the original engine designs?Hughes 0-4-0ST - Steam Workshop Services
This is a very interesting little loco. It came to us as a 5" gauge model of an unknown prototype and with equally unknown history. When itwww.steamworkshop.co.uk
Who knows if Hughes rebuilt a couple of Scottish engines prior to evolving their own distinctive style?
I stared to dig around for info on Furniss and his Hayling Island contacts - not enough time to go far down the burrow, today but you never know if an image of Isaac in his days with Furniss may be right in front of us somewhere in a write-up of construction of these railways.
The Scottish box tank genes are present in Isaac Dixon - and having dug out my Chronicles I discover that Boulton replaced the original 10" x 15" cylinders an 11" x 15" pair before onward sale, so Isaac might have received a replacement tank too.
We are so lucky to have Bennett's history of the Boulton's Siding operation, despite not knowing if the drawings can be relied on 100%.
I've just tried a comparison of his two drawings of Isaac and Nantmwar - the shaded one is Isaac (it would be better but I can't work out how to change the line colour of one):
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I don't have enough reference material on either the Potteries, Shrewsbury & North Wales Rly or the South Coast railways to take a search for images of Isaac or Nantmwar further, but I am intrigued.
But in any case its academic at this stage of your build and I think you've already done Isaac proud in your recreation.
An afternoon of more rivets....
Mike
spikey faz
Western Thunderer
Work has continued on the tank.
I suppose the top of the tank would be riveted as well. Or can I get away with leaving it un-riveted?
Mike
I suppose the top of the tank would be riveted as well. Or can I get away with leaving it un-riveted?
Mike
timbowales
Western Thunderer
"Or can I get away with leaving it un-riveted"
Mike, surely Rule 1 applies here? It's your loco, there are no photos or drawings to say how it should be, so go with whatever floats your boat.
Just my 2.5p's worth
Mike, surely Rule 1 applies here? It's your loco, there are no photos or drawings to say how it should be, so go with whatever floats your boat.
Just my 2.5p's worth
Osgood
Western Thunderer
spikey faz
Western Thunderer
My conscience got the better of me! More riveting.
Mike
Mike
spikey faz
Western Thunderer
Just need to fit a water filler to the top of the tank. I can't imagine it would have been anything very sophisticated!
Mike
Mike
spikey faz
Western Thunderer
No.5 dwarfs Isaac Dixon. 
Mike
Mike
Overseer
Western Thunderer
Isaac is not much bigger than the Wantage Hughes tram engine.
adrian
Flying Squad
Well worth doing - you'd have regretted not doing later on if you'd have left it.
spikey faz
Western Thunderer
I think red would suit it very well.
PowSides do transfers for the Wantage Tramway.
Mike
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spikey faz
Western Thunderer
Rather than soldering or glueing the tank in place, I've opted for my usual nuts & bolts approach. Access to the securing nut is via the tank filler.
After some contemplation I've decided to fit Gibson plunger pickups. They're relatively inconspicuous, but it's meant chopping a bit out of the front chassis member and removing the bottom half of the firebox. The chassis member has since been reinforced and the bottom half of the firebox will be reinstated in due course albeit attached to the chassis rather than the boiler.
Mike
After some contemplation I've decided to fit Gibson plunger pickups. They're relatively inconspicuous, but it's meant chopping a bit out of the front chassis member and removing the bottom half of the firebox. The chassis member has since been reinforced and the bottom half of the firebox will be reinstated in due course albeit attached to the chassis rather than the boiler.
Mike
spikey faz
Western Thunderer
Ashpan has been reinstated. I also took the opportunity to solder a couple of lengths of 0.7mm rod from the inside of the chassis to the where the dummy inside valve-gear is truncated. I kept clouting the valve-gear and it would have just been a matter of time before it snapped off.
I've also been working on the steam pipes that go into the smokebox. Need some adjustments! Using nickel silver rod probably not the best thing to use (quite hard to bend) but I don't have any 2mm brass wire to hand.
Mike
I've also been working on the steam pipes that go into the smokebox. Need some adjustments! Using nickel silver rod probably not the best thing to use (quite hard to bend) but I don't have any 2mm brass wire to hand.
Mike
timbowales
Western Thunderer
That's coming along quite nicely, Mike
john lewsey
Western Thunderer
Rather, rather nice Mike
John
John
Richard Gawler
Western Thunderer
Mike this is going to look rather special.
Thank you for all the updates.
Thank you for all the updates.