LarryG's loco & coach WB (4mm/00)

Discussion in 'Workbenches, including workshop techniques.' started by LarryG, 31 January 2019.

  1. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    It's been a 'Save the Hawksworth' morning, which is why it survives after so many mishaps. I think this is it for Western Region stock for now. Most are awaiting painting...
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    The first corridor window shows signs of touching up after paint came off with the masking tape. I suppose no real coaches had pristine panelling under the paint after nine years in traffic. I must put some oil in those axleboxes :) ...
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    EDIT: 25th Sept. 21. This coach will probably be scrapped now to provide a chassis for a Hawksworth suburban.
    Last edited: 25 September 2021 at 16:15
  2. Compton castle

    Compton castle Western Thunderer

  3. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    After saying i had enough GWR coaches, I've ordered some more etched non-corridor sides - and ends this time. I dislike separate droplights particularly in GWR coaches, but I had decided to bite the bullet. Imagine then my delight at seeing on the website that they have integral droplights.

    EDIT: Rover Damask Red is no longer stocked by Halfords. My last remaining aerosol is going to have to last me out.
    Last edited: 20 August 2021
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  4. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    GWR C66 Non-Corridor Third
    Comet etched sides arrived today for the GWR Collett C66 non-corridor third. These coaches were only 55ft 3 inches in length and so the first job was to cut one of my old floors to length with allowance made for the 12thou thick Comet coach ends. New holes were drilled for the bogie centres...

    WEB GWR C66 1.jpg

    Below: Note the wider flanking quarterlights than on earlier Collett coaches...
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    Basic box with solebars and footboards...
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    Last edited: 20 August 2021
  5. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    I had a welcome visit from WT member Craig (Muddyblues) this morning. A bit more was done on the C66 this faternoon. The doors were drilled so the lowest hingest could be soldered in position. The underframe was then detailed. It is nearing completion...

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    A grabshot on recycling bin in pouring rain. The trussrod legs had to be shortened to clear the bogie swing on this short coach...
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  6. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    Finished complete with interior.
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    I have fitted Hornby bogies since today. I looks better balanced now...
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    Last edited: 22 August 2021
  7. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    I have been without a photo stage or diaramma for a good while and had been using the old lifting bridge, which weighed a ton. So I knocked up the beginnings of a new diaramma this afternoon...
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    Last edited: 22 August 2021
  8. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    Another Hawksworth corridor coach, this time a brake third or second. I wasn't too impressed with the brownish maroon, but seeing as removal of the glazing would have destroyed the coach sides, I opted for masking the windows instead...
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    After masking off the roof, a light coat of Halford Plastic Red Oxide primer was followed by my cellulose LMS Crimson Lake. I applied all the 'Methfix' insignia before the paint set rock hard and put up a resistance to the HMRS transfers. Lining followed including the black guttering. The original paint can be seen on the sliding windows...

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    After a coat of Halfords satin varnish, the masking tape was removed from the windows. Ends and chassis were sprayed with 'weathering'. If I had realised how easy this was to do, I would never have messed around fitting etched sides to Hornby's fine coaches...
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  9. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    Hi Larry

    May I ask which Hornby bogies you use please?


  10. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    Hornby bogies are GWR 'Pressed Steel' as come on their Hawksworth corridor coaches. Pressed Steel bogies are more freely available from Bachmann Spares (Peters Spares, Hattons, Kernow etc.)
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  11. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    Many thanks, Larry :thumbs:

    One more, if I may, then I’ll leave you alone ;): what do you use to fix the bogie to the chassis, please?


  12. jonte

    jonte Western Thunderer

    Thanks, Larry.

  13. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    Hornby don't half go the extra mile these days. I have never seen it mentioned in reviews that their BR(W) Hawksworth Passenger Full Brake has the correct pressed steel 'freight' bogie with shorter springs and stepboards than the regular passenger version. There was a third variant with long springs and short stepboards fitted to 'Centenary' stock. The passenger and freight versions are shown below on newly purchased models...
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    I needed a Hawksworth coach to donate its chassis to my new Hawksworth 10-compartment non-corridor third, however, this coach will not now be etched. I wont be producing any more new coaches.
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  14. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    Perishable (fruit and veg?) or any goods which needed to somewhere fast.

    Just apply rule #1 :)........ justify the use of the large vehicle by saying it was picking up the aforementioned goods at other stations on the branch line before being shunted onto another fast train at the junction...
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  15. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    Carmine & cream body given Halfords Plastic Red Oxide primer to kill the cream. When hard, my cellulose carmine red was applied followed immediately by a light blow over with Ford Rosso Red.

    Roof and ends were sprayed with Halfords Matt Black then while wet, they were lightly sprayed with my weathering colour. The chassis was done the same and so were the sides after the lettering had been applied.

    The whole body then got a coat of Testors Dullcoat matt. When hard, the glazing was tacked with Mekpak...
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    Ends of bufferbeams should be angled.
    Last edited: 17 September 2021
  16. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    I have repainted a Hornby Hawksworth corridor brake composite exactly the same as the brake third by masking off the windows. This time though, the roof was sprayed matt black and weathered while the black was still wet. A glance through colour albums shows coach roofs were much of a sameness of brownish grey and so this coach sets the pattern for all the brass coaches awaiting spraying. Bogies were dusted with black weathering powder on springs, lower axleboxes and W iron ties....
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    Last edited: 18 September 2021
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  17. Heather Kay

    Heather Kay Western Thunderer

    I do like the Hawksworth look. I reckon it’s the best pre-Nationalisation coach design.
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  18. Pencarrow

    Pencarrow Western Thunderer

    After Bulleid of course Heather.
  19. Heather Kay

    Heather Kay Western Thunderer

    Yes, you’re probably right. ;)
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  20. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    Yer havin' a larf. :))