AJC
Western Thunderer
Over in @oldravendale's Tim Mill's Photographs thread, we encountered an unusual sight, a German
Prototype - Tim Mills' Photos
@Yorkshire Dave identified it as a Btbs Fährboot-Behältertragwagen but without any pictures of the thing itself: Prototype - Tim Mills' Photos
As it turns out there's a 3D printed kit for this in H0 available in Germany: Bausatz Fährboot-Behältertragwagen BTbs 56, Epoche III Beschriftung - 3D-Druck (which looks pretty good but is, well, it's a bit small). I've reproduced one of the 3D renders below [purely for information and with all due acknowledgement).
This provides all the detail you might need to build one but not, obviously, the measurements. The BR weight diagrams for Ferry Wagons give you some of those (from http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/Book_01_Issue.pdf):
I'm not saying that I'll definitely build one, but as an exercise - in part to show how you can use these weight diagrams and a bit of additional information to make a reasonably accurate model - here it is.
This is not a terribly good weight diagram (some are very good and clearly derived very closely from GAs, this I guess comes from a German weight diagram - despite the reference to a GA! - and is consequently a bit crude). Here's the sketch, dimensions deduced from certain known components (buffers - available in 4mm from Lanarkshire Model Supplies give the height of the headstocks, W irons from Bill Bedford and most minor dimensions derived from proportions based on that and the images of the 3D printed H0 vehicle):
Note that there are a few aides memoire in the event that I decide to do something about it. What I don't have to hand are the dimensions of the 'Von Haus zu Haus' boxes shown in Tim's photos and described by @michl080. If anyone has one of the H0 renditions that would seem to be the easiest way to derive those.
There are a number of barriers - the springs and axleboxes and the lettering most obviously. None of these are insurmountable but it's otherwise a fairly simple wagon from a modelling point of view (though the containers are a tricky set of shapes to get right three times: resin casting is probably the answer there. The problem is philosophical: you're modelling a model and I'm blowed if I can think of a simple reason to find one on a Westcountry branchline.
Adam
Prototype - Tim Mills' Photos
@Yorkshire Dave identified it as a Btbs Fährboot-Behältertragwagen but without any pictures of the thing itself: Prototype - Tim Mills' Photos
As it turns out there's a 3D printed kit for this in H0 available in Germany: Bausatz Fährboot-Behältertragwagen BTbs 56, Epoche III Beschriftung - 3D-Druck (which looks pretty good but is, well, it's a bit small). I've reproduced one of the 3D renders below [purely for information and with all due acknowledgement).
This provides all the detail you might need to build one but not, obviously, the measurements. The BR weight diagrams for Ferry Wagons give you some of those (from http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/Book_01_Issue.pdf):
I'm not saying that I'll definitely build one, but as an exercise - in part to show how you can use these weight diagrams and a bit of additional information to make a reasonably accurate model - here it is.
This is not a terribly good weight diagram (some are very good and clearly derived very closely from GAs, this I guess comes from a German weight diagram - despite the reference to a GA! - and is consequently a bit crude). Here's the sketch, dimensions deduced from certain known components (buffers - available in 4mm from Lanarkshire Model Supplies give the height of the headstocks, W irons from Bill Bedford and most minor dimensions derived from proportions based on that and the images of the 3D printed H0 vehicle):
Note that there are a few aides memoire in the event that I decide to do something about it. What I don't have to hand are the dimensions of the 'Von Haus zu Haus' boxes shown in Tim's photos and described by @michl080. If anyone has one of the H0 renditions that would seem to be the easiest way to derive those.
There are a number of barriers - the springs and axleboxes and the lettering most obviously. None of these are insurmountable but it's otherwise a fairly simple wagon from a modelling point of view (though the containers are a tricky set of shapes to get right three times: resin casting is probably the answer there. The problem is philosophical: you're modelling a model and I'm blowed if I can think of a simple reason to find one on a Westcountry branchline.
Adam
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