Nick Dunhill's Workshop - GWR 45 (ex-Brecon and Merthyr Rly) from an 88D Kit

Nick Dunhill

Western Thunderer
This is a very interesting project. The loco started life on the Brecon and Merthyr Railway, class 45 no 50. It was absorbed into the GWR in 1922/23 as no 1670. It was rebuilt in Caerphilly in '35, and for some unknown reason got a Rhymney Rly R type boiler with a Belpaire firebox. The loco became no 436 in '48 ish. Mike Morris has supplied one of his B&M 45 kits plus some etches/prints to make a RR boiler.

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The plan is to make the chassis (as kit) and footplate, then the cab/bunker. Then make the different boiler and see where we end up. The last time I made an 88D Models kit was a good experience. They're sold as multimedia kits, they have nickel silver etches (which were very good) and 3D prints (pants.) I replaced all the poor 3D with better 3D (from Mickoo of the magic printer) or scratchbuilt items in the case of the firebox crown. The kit made a fine model of a GWR 155.

First up I made the chassis and footplate. I built as provided in the kit, and there were no major issues. I built the coupling rods first to use to locate the axleboxes. The kit has horn cheeks that you fit into slots in the frames. I didn't like that idea, as, in my opinion, it always leads to the axle centres not matching the rod centres, and this is critical for free running. I always use my own horn cheeks made from 1.5 x 1.5 mm L section brass, and use the rods to locate them accurately. It always works, and you get a free running chassis first time.

Also the gussets between the chassis and rear bufferbeam touched the radial truck wheels and needed a bit of a trim.

No. 1670 had some interesting wheel balance weights which I reproduced.

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On to the cab and bunker. I attached all the exterior details first (handrails, safety bars, beadings and handrails) before attempting to assemble the sub structure. I replaced the bunker rear with one cut from 10 thou NS to give myself a chance of forming the curve. The sub assembly is designed to be detachable for paint. It is designed to be screwed to the footplate. I ended up soldering it to to the footplate in error whilst assembling the cab and bunker on the footlate and left it like that!

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This is where I'm up to at the moment. It's gone together very well so far. I cocked up making the cab with the original circular-windowed cab front, realising later that it needed different cab windows to accommodate the Belpaire firebox. It was an easy fix though.

It is fitted with an excellent Premier Components PR 522 motor and gearbox which is very similar to a Slater's SG29. It also has a ECU Loksound V5 decoder (sound file by Brian Robertson) with a stay-alive and a Youchoos Lurve9 speaker.

Next week I'll make the RR boiler and see how we can nail it all together.
 
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SimonT

Western Thunderer
as it always leads to the axle centres not matching the rod centres
Sorry, but I've designed and built five locos with my version of horngudes that fit into the frames and built two MOK that use the same concept. All ran and run perfectly. The 42XX in the video on my layout thread is one such loco. Shall we say "In your opinion"?
Simon
 

simond

Western Thunderer
I tried using Model Engineers Laser to make some frames for my pal, Tony’s Manor which is still languishing on PD Loco. I drew the frame cutouts to a snug fit on the Slaters hornguides, and simply assembled them, and with a set of Premier rods, it rolled first time. It did need some judicious polishing of rods and hornguides, but no more that that. It’s clear that it can be done.

but of course, this is a far cry from a kit of unknown parentage, where the rods and frames are potentially on different etches, made from different materials, and possibly came from different suppliers.
 

Nick Dunhill

Western Thunderer
Thanks Simon, good point. All attended to.

I did measure it though for my own satisfaction. The centres of the assembled rods didn't exactly match the hole centres etched in the chassis, so it would have binded (bound?) It all depends on how diligently you assemble the rods.
 
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