Oz7mm's occasional meanderings - 5" Gauge Met Bo-Bo
Martin Shaw
Western Thunderer
John
Talk about de ja vu, there was a thread fairly recently about this very thing and it may well have been on this forum. I have now found it so go here
Life in a Northern Town - Tarting Up page 2
Regards
Martin
Talk about de ja vu, there was a thread fairly recently about this very thing and it may well have been on this forum. I have now found it so go here
Life in a Northern Town - Tarting Up page 2
Regards
Martin
John,
I presume you have the drawing in Southern Railway Passenger Vans by David Gould.
Pete.
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
John,
Apologies, you must have built all three by now. I didn't find the book till yesterday when looking for something else, the joys of advancing age, at least I have only bought one copy.
Regards Pete.
Oz7mm
Western Thunderer
I think there are at least 12 partially built or waiting to be painted. I think a mammoth paint session is coming soon. Will post pictures.Millions of S trucks.....?
John
Oz7mm
Western Thunderer
Episode 2: The ends
The ferry van roof profile is flatter than the BY so there was no hope of using the roof, and the ends would need to have the height reduced and the top curve flattened. Unfortunately there is a steel brace that follows the roof contour along the top edge which is bolted to the wooden end. The drawings show that while the top of the BY is 11'11" above the rail (as far as I could tell) the lower part of the Ferry Van roof is at 11'7". So nothing to do but hack off some of the top edge and recreate the steel brace. Putting the steel brace on in plastikard wasn't too difficult (though I note a couple of gaps need filling) but the bolts / rivets were more of a challenge. After messing about with Archers river transfers (too small) and drilling holes and putting plastic rod in them and trimming (couldn't get them domed enough), I settled for putting Scale Hardware rivets in. I cut a drilling template in masking tape on the laser cutter and almost got it symmetrical (Scale7JB would do it by eye, but he's young).
Unfortunately when I went to pick the van up to take this picture, I forgot that I had set up the V hangers ready for gluing before taking a coffee break. One of the V hangers fell off, and 30 minutes searching failed to locate it so a chunk of this afternoon was wasted cutting and filing a replacement. Not a piece of scratchbuilding I had bargained for.
Next episode - the roof
John
The ferry van roof profile is flatter than the BY so there was no hope of using the roof, and the ends would need to have the height reduced and the top curve flattened. Unfortunately there is a steel brace that follows the roof contour along the top edge which is bolted to the wooden end. The drawings show that while the top of the BY is 11'11" above the rail (as far as I could tell) the lower part of the Ferry Van roof is at 11'7". So nothing to do but hack off some of the top edge and recreate the steel brace. Putting the steel brace on in plastikard wasn't too difficult (though I note a couple of gaps need filling) but the bolts / rivets were more of a challenge. After messing about with Archers river transfers (too small) and drilling holes and putting plastic rod in them and trimming (couldn't get them domed enough), I settled for putting Scale Hardware rivets in. I cut a drilling template in masking tape on the laser cutter and almost got it symmetrical (Scale7JB would do it by eye, but he's young).
Unfortunately when I went to pick the van up to take this picture, I forgot that I had set up the V hangers ready for gluing before taking a coffee break. One of the V hangers fell off, and 30 minutes searching failed to locate it so a chunk of this afternoon was wasted cutting and filing a replacement. Not a piece of scratchbuilding I had bargained for.
Next episode - the roof
John
Scale7JB
Western Thunderer
I would have marked the middle and then scribed with a set of callipers. Looks good though. At first glance I thought it was the original end.
You'll find that v hangar as soon as you've glued the new ones on.
Out of interest which size were too small? I need to get some and wondering which size.
JB.
You'll find that v hangar as soon as you've glued the new ones on.
Out of interest which size were too small? I need to get some and wondering which size.
JB.
Peter Cross
Western Thunderer
Looks very nice. You probably already knew but plasticard punches quite nicely with a riveter.
Steph Dale
Western Thunderer
Neat job, John!
Steph
Steph
Oz7mm
Western Thunderer
Episode 3: The roof
Carriage roofs are a curse to me. Since getting the laser cutter my most successful method has been to use boat building techniques. I have a jig which holds a series of formers which I then plank over. It was the method used on the roofs for the quint-art that runs on Love Lane (my only contribution to that set by the way).
Here's the jig with the formers. The jig is cut in 2mm MDF and the formers are 1/32" ply.
When planked it looks like this from underneath
and after a lot of filling, priming, sanding, filling, priming, sanding.......you get the idea, it looks like this. Nearly there
It's coming together now. It might get a coat of green paint in the next few days. A bit more soon.
John
Carriage roofs are a curse to me. Since getting the laser cutter my most successful method has been to use boat building techniques. I have a jig which holds a series of formers which I then plank over. It was the method used on the roofs for the quint-art that runs on Love Lane (my only contribution to that set by the way).
Here's the jig with the formers. The jig is cut in 2mm MDF and the formers are 1/32" ply.
When planked it looks like this from underneath
and after a lot of filling, priming, sanding, filling, priming, sanding.......you get the idea, it looks like this. Nearly there
It's coming together now. It might get a coat of green paint in the next few days. A bit more soon.
John
AJC
Western Thunderer
Very nice indeed! Do you have s colour reference for the green ends? Apparently livery colour ends were a feature (on the Southern, anyway) of the introduction of spray painting at Eastleigh c.1965 - this came up from Colin Boocock on SEMG years ago who was working in that bit of the works at the time. Prior to that point - and certainly at the point these Night Ferry brakes were released into normal traffic - I’d have expected them to be black.
Adam
Adam
Oz7mm
Western Thunderer
Adam
This all started when I was lent about 1000 photos taken in the 1960s in my local area. I was fascinated by this particular vehicle which was unknown to me. The notes on the back of the print state that it had green ends. If that was done in 65 then I may repaint the ends black. I'll recheck the date of the photo which was probably after that date.
Thank you
John
This all started when I was lent about 1000 photos taken in the 1960s in my local area. I was fascinated by this particular vehicle which was unknown to me. The notes on the back of the print state that it had green ends. If that was done in 65 then I may repaint the ends black. I'll recheck the date of the photo which was probably after that date.
Thank you
John
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
By the time its mullerd ( weatherd ) it won't matter 
Nice build John
Col.
Nice build John
Col.