7mm Pete’s GWR workbench. Dean's goods. RR R1 class 0-6-2T

Discussion in 'WR Action' started by Peter Cross, 27 October 2019.

  1. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    The wee beastie has now had the smokebox done, so the boiler unit is now firmly fixed. The body removed from its board.
    Guess who forgot to solder the nut to the front footplate under the smokebox?

    As you can see it fits nicely on the frames.


    The more I clean the more it tarnishes. I have found this with one or two strip down to kit parts and rebuilds I've done.
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  2. LarryG

    LarryG Western Thunderer

    Coming on well. There is something about the old South Wales 0-6-2T's.
  3. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    I know little about them. This was bought to sell on, to finance some bits for me.
    What strikes me is the size. To me they need at least another axle.
  4. kenjazz

    kenjazz Active Member

    Hi Pete. It will be interesting to see how you transform yet another dodgy build;)
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  5. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    We're getting there, not much brass left. Mainly a bit of scratch building of missing or broken parts. Then of course the castings.
  6. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    Part I have not been looking forward to, is the coal rails. As a rebuild I do not have the parts of a new build. The beading from tender and the filled in coal rails need making. I was going to use the kit ones, and fill the back, but they don't return to the cab. Unless the were altered by original builder.

    So I didn't fancy making 3 bits of beading, and rails, so this is what I did.

    I cut a plate and shaped the outside to a good fit as per the beading. I then cut the coal plates and fitted just inboard of the plate.


    Then I added the rails themselves.


    And in place.


    The final act was to remove the centre before final fitting. It now looks like the GWR version.


    I am down to two numbers from the last two batches. One has the hanging iron as per my build. The other has a straight one, so could be easily modified.
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  7. NewportRod

    NewportRod Western Thunderer

    Congratulations on taking the RR loco Peter. I must admit I saw it on the E&T stand but didn't have the courage to take it on. So I'm full of admiration for you, especially since you're doing such a good job. I'll look forwards to seeing more progress.
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  8. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    Thanks Rod

    I bought it knowing that if it was not rebuildable
    I could probably get my money back selling the wheels. So far I've only come amiss on one head case that I didn't redo. But I did recover the castings.
    But for the price I thought it was worth a punt. I will sell it on once done, it will find some bits for me.
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  9. NewportRod

    NewportRod Western Thunderer

    Yes you're right, Peter, I was more afraid in overinvesting in time rather than money though.
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  10. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    Progress has been good but slow. The brass bits have mostly been scratch building.
    The steps are done and have mostly treads from the spares boxes. Front and rear lamp irons are from various sources. It will be number GWR 38. It has a guard around the top lamp iron. As I couldn't find any photos of the rear, it is guesswork from glimpses in front 3/4 shots. Lamp iron still needs moving up into it.

    Cab roof has been made and was the las of the major kit brass bits left.


    I have also made up the fire iron holders, and a tank strap which is quite prominent in the photos.


    Last up two overall shots. Tis time to go back to the frames. Here again there are a few bits missing. I have mad a start with two rather large sand boxes, these still need fitting.


    More soon I hope. I am also planning what the h*** to do with the 2P tender.
  11. daifly

    daifly Western Thunderer

    This should help then to reassure you.
    Dave 38 ex-RR on the Roath branch 26Jan57 - S. Rickard Colln PC.jpeg
    38 ex-RR on the Roath branch 26Jan57 - S. Rickard Collection PC
  12. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    Thanks Dave
    That is very helpful. In the livery I really wanted to do too.
    I almost got the shape right.
  13. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    Between Dave's photo above and another I've found. Just when you think it's all over, five more handrails need fitting.
  14. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    First the good news
    There is only a few bits to glue on the body before priming. I think it's close enough now. There is still the frames to do, and the back head. I did have to reshape the dome, the one I had did not look round enough. Should get it done tonight.

    The bad news is lack of transfers. I really need need small and large early BR emblems. But what I thought I had turned out to large later ones.
    This means the Dean goods will have to wait now. And the RR R1 will probably be in green with either GWR on the tanks, or might even get British Railways on the side I saw a photo of one like that just need to see if mine would match.
  15. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    Here we are finished ready for painting in black GWR livery a change from what was originally planned.

    The frames have had the brakes and sanding fitted. I scratch built the sand boxes and the representation of the operating mechanism under the cab. IMG_20200326_215414621.jpg

    I added the front springs over the footplate, as the loco had them in the last GWR livery.


    Now we have a dilemma, Chris Klein has kindly posted some BR emblems to me. So I either try and find a loco with springs above and a large cab ventilator, or take off the springs and add some to the frames. I can't do the GWR version as it had odd lettering, which would need ordering. Back to the books and search.

    End result no painting for a few days.

    In the mean time. Backheads, this it what it came with. It has LNWR written on the back.


    This is what I think I will use with fittings from the spares box.

  16. Podartist79

    Podartist79 Western Thunderer

    Dear Peter,

    It is incredible what you’ve undertaken on such an ‘old dog’ of the original build! Great craftsmanship - really enjoyed your thread!

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  17. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    Thanks Neil
    As long as you do not spend silly money purchasing. You can get the money back. But mostly I enjoy turning them around, even if the air is blue most of the time in some sessions.
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  18. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    I've got the RR R1 in primer. I will be painting the body when I do the 2P.
    But the frames are being reassembled. It is now running on fly leads, just needs pickups and it's ready for the body.

  19. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    We've painted the R1 and are on the final stages of finishing. The body just needs front number plate fitting, a dust of varnish. Then the glazing and wooden can floor, and accessories can go in.



    The frames are just waiting for pickups, then I can get it in the post to the UK.
  20. Peter Cross

    Peter Cross Western Thunderer

    The cab is coming on nicely. The floor is in, as well as the back head. Brake standard and reverser next.


    The glazing is cut and ready to be fitted. The body has had a squirt of Matt varnish.