7mm Poor man's Alamosa.

Discussion in 'Area 51' started by Scale7JB, 1 October 2020.

  1. Lancastrian

    Lancastrian Western Thunderer

    Completely off topic, it was a two week landscape photography holiday to Colorado and four of us then went on to New England for another two weeks. Fall foliage was late that year unfortunately. Good times all the same.

    Ian
     
  2. JasonD

    JasonD Western Thunderer

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  3. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    Been a while.

    My dirty lockdown secret has been buying a few of the AMS On30/On3 cars and coaches where they have become available on ebay. They’re impossible to get hold of new in the UK.

    I had a second coach come through today, bit of an impulse purchase from the states. Question is, did the two colours of coaches ever get used together, or are they completely different time periods/railways?

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    JB.
     
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  4. Mudhen

    Mudhen Western Thunderer

    JB,

    Without digging out the books I believe the red was an early colour and green followed it with the change being around 1920 . I'll dig out the details tomorrow. The RGS which was part of the Narrow Gauge Circle may have been different.

    all the best
    Tim
     
  5. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    Thanks Tim, that would be great!

    JB.
     
  6. Mudhen

    Mudhen Western Thunderer

    JB,

    I've dug out my copy of ' Rio Grande Narrow Gauge Varnish' and here goes.

    Coaches #304 and #306 represent coaches built in 1881 by Jackson and Sharp for the DRGW and as modified by 1938. Major changes were the roof, windows and ride height. Additionally #306 had a 'bay window' added, for the use of the conductor I believe.
    Liveries were Passenger Car Red until 1918 when the basic colour was changed to Pullman Green. In 1950 #306 was painted in Rio Grande Gold, (yellow) with two black stripes. The reason given for the change to green was to save $1.25 per car in materials (!) and give a longer life.

    I think the models look pretty good and apart from a few nerds such as me who would ever know if they ran together or not. :)

    all the best
    Tim

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  7. mickoo

    mickoo Western Thunderer

    They do look nice....resistance is futile.....fell down my D&RGW rabbit hole again last night :rolleyes:

    No idea which era you're planning to model Jon, but for me, rule #1 seems to be the obvious answer.
     
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  8. Scale7JB

    Scale7JB Western Thunderer

    Thanks so much for the reply. Information doesn’t get better than that.

    I’ll keep hold of the red one for now, but if I can find another green one, I may move the red one on. Not sure I could bring myself to run them together if they were painted green 30-40 years earlier.

    JB.
     
  9. eastsidepilot

    eastsidepilot Western Thunderer

    Maybe the colour change as Tim relates from the book is that red paint did suffer with fading quite quickly especially in extreme climates and the change to green may have proved, in those days, longer lasting.

    Col.
     
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  10. Mudhen

    Mudhen Western Thunderer

    JB,

    I've got a couple of spare 1:20.3 versions in my stash if you move up in scale!!

    all the best
    Tim
     
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  11. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    I think it would have been highly likely both liveries would have be seen together for short time while each car was going through the work and/or paintshop.
     
  12. Mudhen

    Mudhen Western Thunderer

    Dave,

    I think you are correct although the model represents the coach after being significantly modified in 1938 by which time I believe green would have been the common colour.

    Tim
     
  13. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    For an even poorer man's Alamosa, years ago I cut and shut some Bachmann On30 cars (the saloon with one window too many due to the number of planks between the window frames!).

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  14. Yorkshire Dave

    Yorkshire Dave Western Thunderer

    I concur, especially if the cars had been modified they would have certainly been repainted.