S7 AGM - 8th June 2013

Dog Star

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
As yet I have not been able to locate any topic about the forthcoming get-together and AGM. Directions for the meeting in Mark were distributed with the most recent S7 Newsletter... and are repeated on the S7 Group Website (within the members-only area).

I shall be going... although I have yet to decide on the route because the most obvious way of getting there involves the A303 (Summer Saturday and Stonehenge!!!).

regards, Graham
 
S

S7BcSR

Western Thunderer
Also details of the Proxy Voting requirements for a new Ordinary Member of committee should be available in the members area later to day having asked the keepers of the website to do the honours. Please keep the Proxy Votes coming.

Rob
 
BrushType4

BrushType4

Western Thunderer
Dog Star said:
Proxy votes?

Ah, please remember to vote! If you are not able to attend the event then please send your proxy paper by e-mail to the S7 Group Secretary and by end of play Wednesday.

regards, Graham Beare
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How did it go Graham?
 
Dog Star

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
You lot are lumbered with me...

or as the Chairman suggested when announcing the result - "we have an un-ordinary Ordinary Member".

regards, Graham
 
Dog Star

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
adrian said:
He knows you well, then.:))
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Inevitable from my writings for the S7 web discussion facility that is WT.

Several peeps at the AGM approached me with the opening line:- "You are that Dog-Star character..." or "Hello Prof Bonio" (thank you Ian the ferri-equi-maniac).

regards, Graham (Barking is recovering after a night on the tiles... he slid down the roof of his kennel and has a sore head)
 
mickoo

mickoo

Western Thunderer
I didn't vote for a couple of reasons, a; I don't know who most of the candidates are so cannot make an across the board reasoned decision and b; I abhor door stop canvassing, I'm big enough and ugly enough to make my own decisions if and when I choose and do not need PMs from candidates asking for my vote, I don't do it for the ones that 'allegedly' run the country so I am not going to do it for a small society.

One point to consider, you could argue that those proxy votes are in effect rigging the result, some candidates do not have access to this site or other PC based social media's and are thus at a loss, basically the person with the highest social profile many not be the best person for the position. I'll concede that PC social media is the future but it should not be a method by which important decisions can be swayed.

I'm sure the above will ruffle some feathers, but the whole episode made me cross, I vote for candidates on merit, not on their door stop canvassing and I'm uncomfortable with the proxy vote system the S7 society has just used, it's quite frankly wide open to abuse and rewards the candidate who can get the most of his mates (old boys school politics) to vote for him.

As noted above I would not have voted for anyone anyway and best of luck to those who succeeded but I have worrying knot in my gut that the voting system used was fundamentally flawed.

I am now questioning access of the PM system here and more worryingly my recent S7 club membership.

I hope the above is not removed as 'inappropriate content' as I strongly feel a flaw in the system has been overlooked.

Finally, no more PM canvassing please, it will not help your cause.
 
Dog Star

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
You are entitled to your views and thank you for presenting a reasoned opinion.

regards, Graham
 
queensquare

queensquare

Western Thunderer
mickoo said:
I didn't vote for a couple of reasons, a; I don't know who most of the candidates are so cannot make an across the board reasoned decision and b; I abhor door stop canvassing, I'm big enough and ugly enough to make my own decisions if and when I choose and do not need PMs from candidates asking for my vote, I don't do it for the ones that 'allegedly' run the country so I am not going to do it for a small society.

One final point, you could argue that those proxy votes are in effect rigging the result, some candidates do not have access to this site or other PC based social media's and are thus at a loss, basically the person with the highest social profile many not be the best person for the position. I'll concede that PC social media is the future but it should not be a method by which important decisions can be swayed.

I'm sure the above will ruffle some feathers, but the whole episode made me cross, I vote for candidates on merit, not on their door stop canvassing and I'm uncomfortable with the proxy vote system the S7 society has just used, it's quite frankly wide open to abuse and rewards the candidate who can get the most of his mates (old boys school politics) to vote for him.

As noted above I would not have voted for anyone anyway and best of luck to those who succeeded but I have worrying knot in my gut that the voting system used was fundamentally flawed.

I am now questioning access of the PM system here and more worryingly my recent S7 club membership.

I hope the above is not removed as 'inappropriate content' as I strongly feel a flaw in the system has been overlooked.

Finally, no more PM canvassing please, it will not help your cause.
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I would have to broadly agree with this.
Also I'm not at all sure about WT being a breeding ground for S7 - I think the case is being completely overstated. I'm a member of the Mendip MRG which, off the top of my head, has 8 or 9 S7 members including the chairman, vice chairman and former treasurer. Of these, only one is a WT member as far as I'm aware.

Jerry
 
Wagonman

Wagonman

Western Thunderer
mickoo said:
I didn't vote for a couple of reasons, a; I don't know who most of the candidates are so cannot make an across the board reasoned decision and b; I abhor door stop canvassing, I'm big enough and ugly enough to make my own decisions if and when I choose and do not need PMs from candidates asking for my vote, I don't do it for the ones that 'allegedly' run the country so I am not going to do it for a small society.
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As noted above I would not have voted for anyone anyway and best of luck to those who succeeded but I have worrying knot in my gut that the voting system used was fundamentally flawed.
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Mickoo,

I don't quite understand your problem. Proxy forms were sent to every member with their Newsletter so no one really had an unfair advantage – the S7 members on here are only a handful compared with the full membership as indeed were the numbers at the AGM itself who may have been influenced in their choice by a number of interventions from the floor during early business. The only criticism I can see that could be laid at the process is the lack of a "manifesto" by each of the candidates!

I do not know how many votes were cast – I suspect the majority of the membership abstained like you did – though the "turnout" was probably higher than for the Police & Crime Commissioners. I for one welcome Graham as I am confident he will be an excellent member of the S7G committee.

As for not voting ever, spare a thought for the hundreds of thousands of people who fought and suffered – and in too many cases died – so that you and I could vote. Politics is far too important to be left to politicians.



Richard
S7G Newsletter Editor and thus, erm, Committee Member
 
mickoo

mickoo

Western Thunderer
Wagonman said:
As for not voting ever, spare a thought for the hundreds of thousands of people who fought and suffered – and in too many cases died – so that you and I could vote. Politics is far too important to be left to politicians.

Richard
S7G Newsletter Editor and thus, erm, Committee Member
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I fail to see what gives you the right to publicly question my 'apparent' lack of voting?

If you read my original dialogue correctly, or perhaps I did not word it clear enough so I'll rephrase. I did not say I never voted for government or anything else, I said I do not accommodate door stop canvassing. I would of thought that my airing of what 'could' be seen as a corrupt voting system would have been enough evidence to show that I care very passionately about voting, vote casting and transparent proceedings, clearly you did not.

In the case of the S7G vote, and as stated clearly above, I did not know enough about all the candidates to make a reasoned decision.

I think this is enough public exposure, feel free to contact me privately if you have any further issues.
 
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