Just Like the Real Thing Presflo. O gauge

Jack Girling

Active Member
Good Evening fellow Modelers.

As a new memebr who only signed up today this is my first thread.

I am Jack Girling. ( The No.1 son of sulzer )

As a new memebr who only signed up today this is my first thread. I am told that I should start with a intro so here goes......................


I am a 18yr old with a very keen railway enthusiast who really enjoys recreating the golden bygone age of railways. My interest lies in the 1930's through to the early 1980's. My keenest interest lies in the British Railways days of 1948-1968.
Both me and my dad have a very extensive and always growing collection of O gauge rolling stock. - The finest Loco being a very fine O gauge Br Maroon Duchess 46244 King George Vi. But I may be a little biased as My dearly missed Gran Parents bough it for me. Plus I am sure that Sulzer will try to convince you that a Gresley A4 is a finer loco :p

I am proficent in simple rolling stock kits such as many Parkside, Slaters and JLRT wagons . I am currently building a LMS 20ton breakvan. This will be finished as a unfitted item of stock in BR Grey. So far this is going very well and I am pleased to say that the handrails are finished- the handrails always seem to be the hardest part. look out for pictures to follow.

I have finished 2 years of education at Brockenhurst college. I studied a BTEC level 3 in engineering. I passed these 2 years with a triple distinction grade :thumbs: . I have now obtained a Apprenticeship with a well known aviation company.:)


any way back to topic. I am writing this to ask if any other modelers have had any experience of the latest variation of the JLRT presflo kit. I understand that it is of resin construction and requires no more skills than a standard slaters/ parkside kit.

I would like to note I have done other JLRT kits so I know roughly what to expect in terms of high part quality.

So has anyone got experience with this costly kit. I expect it to go together like lego for the price of the kit.


Me and my dad Sulzer (bryan) are already the prowd owner of a very fine M&M model brass presflo. This is a extremly fine model but require very good soldering skills due to the brass construction. This means that at this time I would not be able to construct another one.

Anyway any feed back would be greatly appreciated.

Please see atached picture of the M&M preslo in Blue Circle Cement livery.
as I am sure you can see this is a exquisite model and really adds color to a railway. It would be so nice for this to have a partner to run with hence the JLRT enquirery.

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Thanks in advance for any replies.

Anyway Please look out for my posts.

I also have a YouTube Channel containing videos of a fraction of our Stock. here is the link.http://www.youtube.com/user/jbgirling/videos please check this link out and pass it on to anyone else you feel may be intersted.
 

sulzer

Active Member
:) Think what you can do with all those wages Son you will soon be earning.....lol
That M & M Presflo cost me a packet but sure is a magnificent model and beautifully constructed and weathered. IF I ever had to sell it it would fetch a fortune. NOT FOR SALE!
 

Jack Girling

Active Member
:) Think what you can do with all those wages Son you will soon be earning.....lol
That M & M Presflo cost me a packet but sure is a magnificent model and beautifully constructed and weathered. IF I ever had to sell it it would fetch a fortune. NOT FOR SALE!


I quite agree NOT FOR SALE :)
 

lancer1027

Western Thunderer
Welcome to the forum Jack.

I dont have any experience in a Presflow build but as i will eventually get one will be interested in the build. So please start a workbench and post lots of piccies.:thumbs:..

I too have looked at the M&M presflow but gave that a miss as my soldering skills dont allow me to build one of those kits:(

Rob:)
 

Dikitriki

Flying Squad
Hi Jack, and welcome.

Don't get me started on the NQLTRT Presflo.

I'm doing 5 of them (plus 3 hybrid JLTRT hopper/brass chassis), and Airfix kits they aint.

The hopper and the resin parts, including the chassis/solebar resin casting are first rate, and a huge timesaver. The chassis components are poor IMHO. W irons and separate axleboxes are W/M, and fettling them and getting them squarely fitted is a pain. The piping is W/M and some of it is very poorly cast and needs a lot of cleaning up.

There is no doubt that they will look great when finished. They are my holiday models that I take away once a year, and I have been doing them for 4 years or so now:)

I think from memory that the M&M and NQLTRT roofs have different profiles so they look odd if you mix them.

I would be very interested in a workbench thread to compare notes.

Richard
 

Ian G

Western Thunderer
I have about 100 phots of theses wagons top to bottom and lots of underframe detail phots from the one at Quainton.

Ian G
 

Ressaldar

Western Thunderer
The hopper and the resin parts, including the chassis/solebar resin casting are first rate, and a huge timesaver. The chassis components are poor IMHO. W irons and separate axleboxes are W/M, and fettling them and getting them squarely fitted is a pain. The piping is W/M and some of it is very poorly cast and needs a lot of cleaning up.
Richard

Hi Richard,

sounds more than similar to my Fruit D exercise, I'm looking forward to the photos.

cheers

Mike
 

Dikitriki

Flying Squad
I have about 100 phots of theses wagons top to bottom and lots of underframe detail phots from the one at Quainton.

Ian G

Hi Ian

I would be hugely grateful for any below solebar shots. The NQLTRT instructions leave something to be desired.

Richard
 

7mmMick

Western Thunderer
Welcome Jack,

A friend of mine was asked by Mr Waterman to build some of these when they first came out and he echos Richard's comments in as much as the underframe needs a lot of work and is a real head ache, good luck with them,

ATB Mick :thumbs:
 

TheSnapper

Western Thunderer
.......I think from memory that the M&M and NQLTRT roofs have different profiles so they look odd if you mix them.....

Any idea which one is correct Richard? Or are they both?

I've built a BALTRT open wagon (just the one to see what it was like), and the way the chassis is designed with white-metal W-irons etc is a PITA, to say the least, and so "old-school", compared with the quality of the resin cast superstructure.

Cheers

Tim
 

Jack Girling

Active Member
Any idea which one is correct Richard? Or are they both?

I've built a BALTRT open wagon (just the one to see what it was like), and the way the chassis is designed with white-metal W-irons etc is a PITA, to say the least, and so "old-school", compared with the quality of the resin cast superstructure.

Cheers

Tim



Having comparred the M&M model to photos of a real wagon at the mid-hants railway identical even down to the livery the M&M model looks very very accurate to me.
 

Dikitriki

Flying Squad
Any idea which one is correct Richard? Or are they both?
Tim

Hi Tim

They both look very good; they are just not the same! I believe that the M&M roof is just a little bit too rounded, the NQLTRT one has a slightly flatter roof which looks spot on when compared to Paul Bartlett's pictures.

Have you built your holiday wagon?:)

Cheers

Richard
 

Dikitriki

Flying Squad
Having comparred the M&M model to photos of a real wagon at the mid-hants railway identical even down to the livery the M&M model looks very very accurate to me.

Hi Jack

Can you post a photo of your Presflo squarely end on please? I'll do the same with my NQLTRT one and we can compare:)

Thanks.

Richard
 

Ian G

Western Thunderer
I have found the disk of photos, I went round most of Quaintons rolling stock and took a 100 plus photos of the wagons plus what ever was at Quorn on the GC when passing through.

Ian G
 

D1054

Western Thunderer
I have about 100 phots of theses wagons top to bottom and lots of underframe detail phots from the one at Quainton.

Ian G
Hi Ian, Those pics would be a great resource for us if you would be kind enough to post a few to the Gallery?:thumbs:

I've a JLTRT one to build too..... if I ever finished building ruddy Westerns ;)
 
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