4mm Wharfeside, a lifetime's project

Dave F.

Western Thunderer
Okay, I've finally had a bit of time off so I thought I should start the thread about 'Wharfeside' as suggested on the 'New members' section of the forum.

I've posted the story behind the layout elsewhere so here is a quick resume`.

Started off as a model of Armathaite on the S&C and first laid down more than thirty years ago. The EM gauge layout languished untouched for long periods over the years whilst I was involved in other peoples OO and P4 projects, sadly it never seemed to come round to my turn for a joint effort and after some hard thinking I decided to cut back on my involvement with other projects to concentrate on my own.
I had continued to build EM stock for the layout and with the goods vehicles OO wheels were temporarily fitted to help stock the OO layouts. The locos of course were built and placed in the display case on the wall.
A few years ago I decided to make a restart on the layout with C&L track components instead of the original copperclad and with the suggestion from a friend of moving the location of the layout to Wharfedale just northwest of Leeds many of the same locos and even trains could be used. The line saw diversions from the Midland mainline through Airedale when that was blocked, closed for maintenance or just plain busy. As well as the regular tanker trains from the NE there was also a good local service using a number of the locos I already had, Fairburn and Ivatt tanks, 2Ps and Compounds and the occasional express loco on the local train to Ilkley, e.g. a Scot with two non-corridors returning to Leeds tender first because the Ilkley turntable was too small!
A change of personal circumstances and a move out of the family home lead my friend to lose interest and go in another direction so I was on my own. Fortunately I was a 'hired help' on the Alloa layout of the ScRSG and with their change of clubrooms there was room for Wharfeside so with their help the layout was transported, assembled and has been worked on for the past few years. Me finishing the C&L trackwork and wiring on the scenic section and some of the lads helping with the construction of the fiddle yard boards.
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The fiddle yard trackwork was complete, working and the wiring for the panels started just before the lockdown then the landlord closed the building, so other work was continuing at home. Structures were taking shape, a 5 arch viaduct was slowly being 'stoned', now finished, Signal box and footbridge built from etch brass kits and the goods shed started to replace the cardboard cutout one.
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The other end of the yard took a while to get the ballast down and had to wait till I had the Midland Heavy bufferstop cast.
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As I said in the New Members section, I'm interested in the look of the track so as I was involved in the test building of some Bill Bedford etches for the BR Mk1 flatbottom track I was able to get some more from Bill to show the type of track that was on the Wharfedale lines.
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So I hope you like what I've been doing for half my life and I'm trying to get it finished one day although running trains is great fun.

Dave F.
 

Simon

Flying Squad
Dave, thank you for sharing your magnum opus with us, that is a deeply impressive layout you have there and I really like the back story and setting you have chosen too.

I am interested in modelling track myself, and I think you have just shown us some of the most convincing and well modelled permanent way around, really very good indeed, especially that flat bottom track from Bill Bedford, stupendous and very evocative of main lines of the period.

Simon
 

Dave F.

Western Thunderer
Working on the fiddleyard panels today, up panel now finished with all the LEDs wired and working showing entry and exit routes.

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Couldn't resist a quick snap of a train on a bridge.
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DJH Britannia built over thirty years ago with iirc, a Crownline BR1D coal pusher tender which isn't quite right, I will modify it one day.
The 4F is Bachmann modified to an early LMS built one by stripping the beading off the splashers but still right hand drive.
Viaduct based on Lob Ghyll viaduct on the Wharfedale line, built in plastic sheet with stone overlays on a ply frame using a Midland Railway drawing.

Had a good day.
Dave F.
 
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LarryG

Western Thunderer
The trackwork is so convincing in every detail. I have always considered EM gauge was good enough, but that is just my opinion. Your intro in the members thread didn't mention gauge initially and so I guessed wrongly it was 0 gauge. Looking forward to seeing more photographs.
 

Dave F.

Western Thunderer
Hi Larry, thanks for your comments, yes I failed the mention the gauge in the introduction so I will go back and add that info.

Cheers,
Dave F.
 

Focalplane

Western Thunderer
When it came to getting a real job as a geologist in 1967, they were few and far between. My Tutor at Southampton University was a Yorkshireman, Dr. Derek Moore. He suggested I might continue my studies and work along side him, but not in Wharfedale, instead further west, around Kirkby Stephen. There were still steam locomotives on the S&C and I remember photographing a 9F on a freight train passing through Kirkby Stephen in 1967, The geology is much the same but my rocks were older than the classic Yoredales, as they are known in the geologists’ world. But we had the same layer cake strata overlying older rocks of the Lake District.

Dr. Moore (don’t call me Sir) was a rabid socialist but very likeable after an afternoon drinking session at the Craven Heifer. His Bedford Dormobile van showed me the way to field work camping, his eye for hidden scenery taught me everything I was to apply all my life, whether in South America or Equatorial Africa. But I suppose the gist of this post is to say that every Dale Country layout I have seen always seems to get the geology right! And those stone viaducts!

Glad you are here and will follow with great interest!

Paul
 

Dave F.

Western Thunderer
Thank you gentlemen for all the likes, I'll try to post now and again but at the moment wiring up LEDs on the fiddleyard panel is the aim. I've gathered up some expanded polystyrene for the scenery around the viaduct so that may be next to be worked on.

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Dave F.

Western Thunderer
Yes Martin, though the business is busy still so only when time allows, usually Wednesday nights and sometimes Monday afternoons if I've got all the weekend orders done and posted on the way to the club.

Nice to hear from you. ;)

Dave F.
 

Culreoch

Active Member
I visited Wharfeside last night. Whilst several of Dave's native LMS 4Fs and 3Fs were on test, Dumfries' 76073 popped up a long way from home on this parcels working just entering the layout. This viewpoint is going to be brilliant as the scenery comes together, especially if we can find a big backscene view to put up on the wall beyond.

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Dave F.

Western Thunderer
Nice, very nice Jamie. Yes I'm eager to get some ground work done around the viaduct with Lob Ghyll running through below, I need to think up a name for the viaduct as Lob Ghyll is already taken by the real bridge, how's about Cull Ghyll as a nod to your layout.
We had a good wee running session after I had finished the last LED wiring at the north end of the second F/Y panel, just the south end to do and the electrics are more or less finished just four signals to site at the front and the wiring is already in for those.
Some building of stock is needing restarted as these liquified ammonia tanks are needing the ladders, platforms and filler covers done, they were first running on the layout before lockdown.
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Cheers,
Dave F.
 
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Dave F.

Western Thunderer
Culreoch isn't the only one who's got a class 76XXX in EM now. Our 'Glesga Fair' holiday weekend was working on orders but the evenings were working on this, a Bachmann 76XXX. Started out as a cheap buy from a friend who picked it up from someone else who had gone up a scale so £25 quid bought this runner numbered as Ayr sheds 'pet' 76096, it did some service on the OO layout Alloa in that guise then after seeing Jamie's 76XXX as pictured above I took a flaky and stripped the loco down, prepared the Ultrascale wheels, made 2mm chassis overlays opened out the axle slot that was tight for the 1/8th axles, the Bachmann axles were 3mm but two of the slots took the standard axle anyway..... Made up the Lanarkshire Models coupling rods and tender chassis and hey presto an EM 76XXX. I had a choice of two numbers for Wharfeside both were in a narrow six month loan period to Skipton shed and bang on the layout period so I choose 76048. The loco was running in tonight on the layout and performed well though a persistant squeak from the pickups needs attention. The valvegear needs repairing and tightening up before fitting as it was very loose to start with.
So a nice loco for the Morecambe trains or Leeds parcels which could also be Ivatt 4mt hauled or sometimes the last of the LMS compounds.

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Dave F.

Western Thunderer
Not much to write home about really. Spent some time altering wiring to sort odd little problems plus trying to find out why some of the fiddleyard panel 12v LEDs were popping, one right in my face.... Turns out the supply round to the fiddleyard which was supposed to be 16vac then rectified to 12vdc for the tortoise point motors and panel LEDs was actually nearly 15vdc so the LEDs were being over driven, pop....pop, one going every club night.
Took advice and told to fit a ''Buck Converter'' adjustable step down module to reduce the voltage, these worked and we now have 11volt powering the point motors and LEDs, no more blowouts.
On the loco front is a Hornby Royal Scot converted to EM gauge last week but when reassembling the chassis I found the dreaded Mazak rot in the motor mount and the idler gear retainer, they were starting to crumble, I glued some of the crumbs back together last Wednesday just to get the loco running and ordered new parts which came today. One is original Hornby the other is a 3D print. The Scot ran very well last week taking the 10 coach Thames/Clyde Express round Wharfeside at break neck speed, slowed down a wee bit when I hung another 10 coaches behind. It's on the bench now getting a Mashima motor fitted to give better, smoother and quieter performance.

Also been working on the latest Bufferstop, it's an LSWR bufferstop and it can be found on the Lanarkshire Models website.

Dave
 

34091 Weymouth

Western Thunderer
A very nice layout & in em too, I've just recently sold my layout which was settle carlisle based & very similar in design to this in lots of ways. I live very close to wharfdale & its a lovely spot. It was a real east meets west too with b16s coming as far as skipton on the Billingham tanks along with j39s & wd 2-8-0s. The signal box reminds me of Embsay.

Look forward to seeing more,

Si
 

Dave F.

Western Thunderer
Thanks very much for your comments Si, Yes the mix of loco types appeals to me too, as well as all the Midland and LMS locos I have two J39s on the go, an etched B16 kit part started by someone else, a B1 and a few WDs. The signal box is actually a Hornby one loaned by one of the juniors in the club but a brass one is nearly finished and that is based on the taller one at Embsay.

Dave.
 

Dave F.

Western Thunderer
Once again it's been a while since I reported anything about Wharfeside.

Well, all the wiring is finished and working, a slight short does show up in the fiddleyard when certain points are set and a certain section switch is set one way but in normal operation it is't a problem but I'm getting closer to tracing it.
The viaduct is now fixed in position and the groundwork around the piers started.
More locos converted to EM and a WD I built for someone else years ago then bought back has been overhauled, renumbered, AWS and electrification flashes removed and the paintwork touched up, it has been renumbered as 90464 a Carlisle loco so it can be used on through freights to Leeds.
A Hornby Royal Scot has had cosmetic frames added and Sharman wheels fitted which only just fit between the splashers, a Mashima motor was fitted for better running, the Scot looks the part on the Thames/Clyde express, just needs the valvegear adding and some weathering.

So there we are, I try to take some pictures next time I'm at the club.

Dave.
 

Dave F.

Western Thunderer
I mentioned on the Workbench thread about building a Caprotti black five.
Well there was also mention of a second one being built so here they are together.
The cylinders are slowly being assembled on the first one and once the second one is done I'll be fitting the delicate reverser rods and footplate steps, etc.
Also shown is a 'Mike Edge' Stanier 3P tank, it's had the chassis built with CSB suspension and the Ultrascale wheels fitted and the very fine valvegear started. It trundles round Wharfeside with it's two non-corridor coaches very nicely.

Dave.
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